London riots

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Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Quite amazing how normally reasonable people suddenly turn into out-and-out fascists when stuff like this happens...
So are you suggesting they need cuddles and soft words instead? All teenagers feel disenfranchised it is biology. Most don't behave like mindless thugs or fearists. (Terrorist is off limits so...)
 

plainlazy

Über Member
Location
South coast
Young people are playing games like GRAND THEFT AUTO and taking to the streets and smashing/burning mugging etc. They are playing a real life video game.

We are all responsible for what happened last night and the politician’s/police chief etc. have no idea of what is happening in our society and real life.

The police have drafted in extra Police from other areas. What will happen now is other areas will kick off and then there will not be enough Police to cover this.

Teresa May should be sacked she does not have a clue.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Young people are playing games like GRAND THEFT AUTO and taking to the streets and smashing/burning mugging etc. They are playing a real life video game.

We are all responsible for what happened last night and the politician’s/police chief etc. have no idea of what is happening in our society and real life.

The police have drafted in extra Police from other areas. What will happen now is other areas will kick off and then there will not be enough Police to cover this.

Teresa May should be sacked she does not have a clue.
Oh come on. This is like the Jamie Bolgeq murded being blamed on Childs Play 3. This type of argument removes responsibility from the perpitrators of the crimes.
As for us "all being responsible" I would agree if the general public had a right to fight crime. As we don't how the hell can we (as the public) be responsible for the actions of sheeple?
 
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User482

Guest
So are you suggesting they need cuddles and soft words instead? All teenagers feel disenfranchised it is biology. Most don't behave like mindless thugs or fearists. (Terrorist is off limits so...)

So are you suggesting that the only two options are cuddles, or the gulag?
 
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User482

Guest
Quite amazing how academics who are isolated from the reality of these things suddenly turn so judgemental...

Don't be so stupid. FM responded to a post advocating a Stalinist solution - is hard labour and murder in the gulag something you support?
 
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User482

Guest
I am suggesting that the fear of a real punishment would be better than a good talking to.

And what do you consider to be a "real punishment"?
 
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User482

Guest
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Where people are sorry for what they have done.
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The difficulty, I think, is that many of the looters know what they were doing was wrong, but don't care very much. They, as in other sections of society, have an inflated sense of entitlement. Matters are hardly helped by an elite who do much the same.
 
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User482

Guest
A real prison where the inmates don't get TV,xbox, and generaly better stuff than they have at home. Punishment should hurt; mentaly if not physicaly. To many use prison as a way to meet up with friends.

Oh come on. Nobody wants to go to prison.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
A real prison where the inmates don't get TV,xbox, and generaly better stuff than they have at home. Punishment should hurt; mentaly if not physicaly. To many use prison as a way to meet up with friends.
I used to design bits of prison. And I've designed a lot of social housing. And I can tell you that prison is a fearful thing, degrading, dangerous and soulless. (For the designer it's a great education - thinking about how to draw a building that can't be used to kill oneself or others is very taxing...)

Anyroadup. It all looks pretty normal round our way. The supermarkets are closing early which makes me wonder if our 1.15am splash n' dash at Tescos will happen on Friday night, but, other than that we survive. If you're sending food parcels by chopper, we're right out of foie gras.
 

mac1

Aggravating bore magnet
Location
Basingstoke
The difficulty, I think, is that many of the looters know what they were doing was wrong, but don't care very much

because there's nothing to stop them

. They, as in other sections of society, have an inflated sense of entitlement. Matters are hardly helped by an elite who do much the same.


more clutching at straws - "see how can we blame them when the rich do it?"
 
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