Manchester - Female cyclist pushed into canal by man

[Webbo2]

Well its not GBH and I did not try to justify it, if you read my previous posts. If he is caught he will possibly be charged with ABH and possibly criminal damage.

Sorry my mistake.
I think an appropriate trial would be by ducking stool, if he survives he’s burnt at the stake.🔥

 

[fossyant]

Also, East and South East Manchester are sadly lacking in decent cycle routes. You need to be confident using Ashton Road, or Ashton Old Road going into Manchester, and it's not pleasant. The canal is lovely TBH. The bloke is a bully, and an angry one with behaviour problems. The dog looked well behaved. It looked shocked at his actions.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Anyone else's first thought (after WHAT??) was "wonder how the camera survived?"

 

[cyberknight]

Just checked this on the Daily Mail website

OK - it is the DM
but apparently ALL cyclists deserve this and NO cyclist should be allowed on any path of any kind ever

and we are all evil and in league with the Devil (other evil deities are available)
or so it seems from the general tone of many of the comments


sometime I just look on there - just to see the other side of sanity

Anything posted by the daily mail is going to pander to that sort of opinion anyway.its always amazes me how cyclists are always at fault. Local facefluff page telling people where speed cameras are descending quickly into cyclists speed and jump red lights as a reason why speed cameras are bad for motorist's comes to mind.

 

[Drago]

Oh and this is really making me rethinking getting a camera.

It's worth remembering it didn't stop this woman becoming a victim and as yet has not been much use as an aid to detection.

 

[ktmbiker58]

On my local canal towpaths there are plenty of signs reminding cyclists to give way to pedestrians. I've been riding them for years with no issues but I always stop and pull my bike to the side, quite often pedestrians have waved me on as I am slowing.

From the CRT website:

The Towpath Code​

Remember: Share the Space, Drop your Pace, It's a Special Place
Please be thoughtful and considerate when using towpaths.
The following applies:

• Pedestrians have priority
• Cyclists must slow down for others
• Take extra care when passing people, pets and wildlife
• Respect people using the waterway for activities like angling, boating or paddle sports
• Wheelchairs, mobility aids, cycles and legal e-bikes are allowed
• E-scooters, motorbikes, modified e-bikes and other unauthorised vehicles are not allowed
• Keep dogs under close control and clean up after them
• Take litter home

 

[ktmbiker58]

Regarding cameras - it's a 2 way street and motorists submitting footage have found themselves in trouble as their own driving was questionable.

 

[Webbo2]

On my local canal towpaths there are plenty of signs reminding cyclists to give way to pedestrians. I've been riding them for years with no issues but I always stop and pull my bike to the side, quite often pedestrians have waved me on as I am slowing.

From the CRT website:

The Towpath Code​

Remember: Share the Space, Drop your Pace, It's a Special Place
Please be thoughtful and considerate when using towpaths.
The following applies:

• Pedestrians have priority
• Cyclists must slow down for others
• Take extra care when passing people, pets and wildlife
• Respect people using the waterway for activities like angling, boating or paddle sports
• Wheelchairs, mobility aids, cycles and legal e-bikes are allowed
• E-scooters, motorbikes, modified e-bikes and other unauthorised vehicles are not allowed
• Keep dogs under close control and clean up after them
• Take litter home

I might be missing something here but what is the relevance of the above.

 

[Alex321]

Anyone else's first thought (after WHAT??) was "wonder how the camera survived?"

No.

I assume it was a GoPro or similar action camera, and they are normally waterproof to some depth.

 

[Drago]

From the CRT website:

The Towpath Code​

The code doesnt allow transgressors to be assaulted and end up in the drink.

 

[ktmbiker58]

I might be missing something here but what is the relevance of the above.

It is relevant as its the CRTs code of practice for users of the towpath, cyclist should have stopped in advance and let the pedestrians passed especially given how narrow the path was. Just for information :- Towpaths are not rights of way but permissive routes CRT can and does stop cyclists using various stretches.

 

[Webbo2]

It is relevant as its the CRTs code of practice for users of the towpath, cyclist should have stopped in advance and let the pedestrians passed especially given how narrow the path was. Just for information :- Towpaths are not rights of way but permissive routes CRT can and does stop cyclists using various stretches.

She did appear to stop and the gentleman in question appears to have a dod of the lead. Where does it say that anyone who transgress the code gets shoved in the canal.

 

[ktmbiker58]

She did appear to stop and the gentleman in question appears to have a dod of the lead. Where does it say that anyone who transgress the code gets shoved in the canal.

Dog doesn't need to be on a lead - which I think is a bit daft as many towpaths (certainly around here) are quite narrow - a bit of common sense is needed on shared paths

 

[united4ever]

What is the dialogue exactly:

Him: Slow Down
Her: .......Dog
Him: yeah, you're on a bike you effing idiot

What does she say before dog?

Also, I could they really get a prosecution if he just said, she lost her balance as she tried to squeeze by on the edge. I know it seems almost certain she was pushed given the verbal altercation and his body language but there was no push caught on camera and she would have been squeezing right on the edge given the space available.

It highlights the need for real cycle infrastructure. South Manchester and Salford are making strides but north and east Manchester is miles behind.

 

[fossyant]

South Manchester and Salford are making strides but north and east Manchester is miles behind.

South West Manchester, not Stockport (South) and East. Didsbury and Chorlton have a load of 'infrastructure'