March 29th Group Riding Restarts

[davelincs]

Good news, I’m getting a bit fed up going out on my own 😀

 

[matticus]

EDIT: Ooops - beaten to it here: https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/march-29th-group-riding-restarts.272907


From March 29

British Cycling-affiliated Club rides or recreation programme rides for up to 15 participants (or limited to relevant leader/rider ratios), on highways, trails and tracks.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/a...ews-British-Cycling-update--The-Way-Forward-0

15 seems a lot! Will make club-runs interesting, as we may have to divide into 3 sub-groups at the caff stop :P

 

[cyberknight]

From March 29

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/a...ews-British-Cycling-update--The-Way-Forward-0

15 seems a lot! Will make club-runs interesting, as we may have to divide into 3 sub-groups at the caff stop :P

My group is lucky if we get 6 anyway , our club is more of a saturday one so if we get more than 4 on a sunday we are doing well

 

[vickster]

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/march-29th-group-riding-restarts.272907/#post-6340750
already being discussed...
Obviously, there’s still scope for the roadmap to be amended...ie delayed

 

[matticus]

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/march-29th-group-riding-restarts.272907/#post-6340750
already being discussed...
Obviously, there’s still scope for the roadmap to be amended...ie delayed

Aaaaargh! missed that one.

Thanks Vick.

 

[matticus]

Quite. I would have thought the very definition of riding in somebody's slipstream is breathing in the air they breathe out.

No; it's riding in their slipstream. They could have a fully enclosed (deep-sea style) breathing kit, but would still have a "slipstream".

Person on a bike is not plumbed like a car with an exhaust pipe out the back.

 

[mjr]

When there's a rule of six in place I don't think the optics of groups of 15 cyclists riding about the place is favourable.

Me neither. My local non-bc group is planning for sixes and I hope that BC will U turn like CUK and I think BC did during last year's post lockdown restrictions.

 

[Milkfloat]

I believe the wording that allows this from the government is.

"Organised outdoor sports for both adults and children will also be able to resume with any numbers, where this takes place under NGB guidance."

NGB guidance should cover Covid protocols. For example as a Scout organisation we will be able to have 15 children, but it is not a free for all, we need to follow Covid protocols (distancing, cleaning, hand gels etc).

 

[Eric Olthwaite]

No; it's riding in their slipstream. They could have a fully enclosed (deep-sea style) breathing kit, but would still have a "slipstream".

Person on a bike is not plumbed like a car with an exhaust pipe out the back.

Yes agreed, "definition of" was loose wording. Nevertheless, it seems to me that if you are 2m behind somebody in their slipstream, the concentration of their exhalations will surely be higher than if you are 2m apart from them and not in their slipstream.

 

[mjr]

I believe the wording that allows this from the government is.

"Organised outdoor sports for both adults and children will also be able to resume with any numbers, where this takes place under NGB guidance."

I guess NGB is National Government Body, so this enables only BC and not CUK or any other?

So this hinges on what I believe is a fiction that all affiliated groups are obeying the BC guidance running only no-drop rides that comply with the Highway Code on risk-assessed routes, quite besides any covid-related guidance (which is not yet available: "details will be confirmed within the revised The Way Forward documents"). Some affiliated group rides may comply with the handbook in full, but I think not many. A silver lining is I suspect it's quite rare that any outbreak will be traced back to even a large group ride because they're outdoors and not face-to-face... a nobber road-raging against a cycling group is far more likely.

 

[cyberknight]

Raised on the clubs whats app that i think we should stick to 6s

 

[matticus]

National GOVERNING Body I think? (not sure if CUK qualifies as one - I know AUK are trying for this status)

 

[Milkfloat]

I guess NGB is National Government Body, so this enables only BC and not CUK or any other?

So this hinges on what I believe is a fiction that all affiliated groups are obeying the BC guidance running only no-drop rides that comply with the Highway Code on risk-assessed routes, quite besides any covid-related guidance (which is not yet available: "details will be confirmed within the revised The Way Forward documents"). Some affiliated group rides may comply with the handbook in full, but I think not many. A silver lining is I suspect it's quite rare that any outbreak will be traced back to even a large group ride because they're outdoors and not face-to-face... a nobber road-raging against a cycling group is far more likely.

Fully agree, the rules / guidance do not necessarily make sense or even exist, but we are where we are and we scream when we don't have rules at all.

 

[mjr]

National GOVERNING Body I think? (not sure if CUK qualifies as one - I know AUK are trying for this status)

BC has directors appointed by the gov.uk "executive non-departmental public body" currently named Sport England. I think CUK and AUK would need to have similar to qualify as National Governing Bodies. CUK's charitable status may prevent that. I don't know about AUK.

(Edited to rephrase)

 

[HMS_Dave]

I am in a group ride quite often. But only for about 1-2 seconds as they whizz past me.