More for Forfar? 24 and 25 April

Discussion in 'Audax, Brevet and Randonnee' started by themightyw, 8 Apr 2010.

  1. themightyw

    themightyw New Member

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    St Andrews, Fife
  2. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    I've got a few things on on the Saturday (but trying to convince Mrs Noodley that she'll be able to cover them :blush:) so might not make Scone the Flay Way...

    But I shall be there for Glenisla - it goes past my front door after a few miles, but I'll ride to the start and back again B)
     
  3. Seamab

    Seamab Senior Member

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    Dollar
    I've sent off my entry for the Pitlochry 150K on the 24th April.

    According to the route sheet there is an information control at only 3 miles prior to crossing (or going under?) the busy Dundee/Aberdeen dual carriageway?
    It also has a short section after Dunkeld on the A9 before the road to Dalguise which is worrying me - i thought the NCN 77 route went this way?

    Anyone done this one before?
     
  4. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    Yes, the section on the A9 lasts for this long.....................then you are back onto the quieter roads. I reckon a dozen or so pedal strokes will cover it.

    And the route goes under the dual carriageway. Where is the info control?
     
  5. Seamab

    Seamab Senior Member

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    Dollar
    According to the route sheet the A9 section is 2K or 1 mile from the Dunkeld junction with the A9. This looks correct from the road map. The NCN route must take a different way to connect with the Dalguise road. I'll be following it even if it's longer - no way am i cycling on the A9 for a mile - unless there is no alternative.

    The info control is 200m on the left before you go under the dual carriageway - prior to that the instruction is to "follow a track down to and along the dual carriageway then down the slip road". I'm sure in reality this will be more obvious than it seems.
     
  6. ACS

    ACS Guru

    Application for the Scone the Flat way in the post this morning.
     
  7. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    Shows how bad my memory is! I was sure the A9 stretch was short :biggrin: eck and I cycled on the A9 for a while last week after the cycle track ran out coming down from Pitlochry...it was not too bad although I would not want to do it every day!

    Mmmmm 200m before the dual carriageway, that's near the road down to my house....I'll have to have a thnk what it'll be. There's not many choices!

    ..."along the dual carriageway" :biggrin: The route must have chnaged since the last time I rode it - I'll speak to Dave (the organiser) to see what that's all about...:biggrin:
     
  8. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    Just checked the version of the routesheet shown on the AUK webpags and it does not show the same instructions as Seamab's version. I'll send Dave a message to ask which one is being used and ask about the dual carriageway bits...

    ...I think I know what the info question will be ;)
     
  9. OP
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    themightyw

    themightyw New Member

    Location:
    St Andrews, Fife
    Love the idea of doing the 150 on the Saturday, but I'm planning to do my first ever back to back 100ks, and since I've never done more than 100k ever I reckon the 150 would be asking for trouble!
     
  10. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    It would have helped if I had read the above post correctly and the entire route sheet properly! ;)

    The route goes up Dundee Road and then takes the cycle track which runs adjacent to the dual carriageway for a short while then goes down the sliproad and under the dual carriageway onto a quiet country road...no need to go onto the dual carriageway at all, although I now remember having just cycled down the dual carriageway when I last road it as there were no cars on it at that time of the morning...
     
  11. Seamab

    Seamab Senior Member

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    Dollar
    Thanks Noodley, that's one problem solved. Just the Dunkeld bit to worry about now.

    I've read that the NCN 77 track follows the A9 until the Birnam/Dunkeld railway station then goes down and under the A9 which seems safer to me than trying to cross the A9. Later the same NCN comes out of Dunkeld and apparently joins up with the Dalguise road (i'm not sure how it re crosses the A9?).

    I'd have thought from a safety point of view the audax route would not use the A9 if at all avoidable.

    At least in an audax you can take any diversion you wish as long as you hit the controls.
     
  12. Noodley

    Noodley Guest

    I drove that stretch yesterday en route to Pitlochry with eck and we could not figure out where the cycle path went or whether it actually 'disappeared'...my earlier mistake re thinking it was just a short stretch was because I was thinking about the turnoff towards Crieff (comes with cycling with eck to Comrie all the time!)...the last time I rode the Pitlochry 150 and it went along that stretch of the A9 was fine, although it can seem quiet 'dangerous' I suppose.
     
  13. Seamab

    Seamab Senior Member

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    Dollar
    I've never cycled on the A9 but driven it many times - which is scary enough.

    I found this info on the routes2ride Sustrans website:

    A little vague but there is an alternative.
     
  14. eck

    eck Über Member

    It's a long time since I rode the sustrans route as described above, but it was certainly "a path" - unsurfaced, fine for a pootle with the kids, but I wouldn't fancy it on an audax.
    And, personally, I'd ignore the instructions at 54 and 56K, suggesting a left and immediate right over the A9 and then a right turn back on to the A9 again. Far safer to stay on the A9 IMHO and go with the flow than take two dangerous right turns over the main road.
    It's the difference between about 5k straight up the A9 or a dangerous R then L, 2k on the old main road, then another dangerous R back on to the A9. Even then, you've still got 3k to go up the A9 before you reach the turn to Dalguise.
     
  15. Maverick75

    Maverick75 New Member

    I ride this section fairly regularly (last time was last Wed.) I don't find it particularly scary. It's just a head down fast section - don't hug the kerb though as the lorries tend to blow you sideways as they pass. I did the 150 last year and came down this stretch as part of a group and it was fine as the traffic was light. Cycling in urban areas, now that is really scary!
     
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