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Loch side.
A question I found floors more car sales staff than you would believe is "how do you open the petrol cap"!

If it is a late model car, by software of course. Nothing as crude as a pull lever.
 

Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
CVT Fan here. Manual transmission-like fuel economy and better feel than torque converters.

Never driven a CVT though I like them as a concept, but as a long term fan of manuals I was road-to-Damascus converted to torque converter autos by the 8 speed ZF box in my 3 series. Better economy than the manual variants and better performance. Effortless driving and seamless changes in comfort mode, lots of fun in sport mode with choice of auto, sequential changes on the stick or flappy paddles. Not going back to manual for a daily.
 
Mine is a CVT - but it feels very like it is changing gear - although quite smootly

The control system is a bit dodgy - it sometimes seems undecided whether to change up/down or not and flips from one to the other - thus sending teh revs all over the place

I sort fo expected a CVT to have a much smoother system rather than appearing to be CVT but favouring specific ranges like a gearbox
I have learnt to control it - it prefers quite significant changes to the accelerator position

and I alsi have "flappy paddle" gear change levers by the wheel - I often use these to make sure it does wht I want and doesn;t leave me at high revs for ages
or in to high a gear when I might need it lower


all in all - I reckon they didn;t have the processing power available to do it properly
 
Location
Loch side.
Mine is a CVT - but it feels very like it is changing gear - although quite smootly

The control system is a bit dodgy - it sometimes seems undecided whether to change up/down or not and flips from one to the other - thus sending teh revs all over the place

I sort fo expected a CVT to have a much smoother system rather than appearing to be CVT but favouring specific ranges like a gearbox
I have learnt to control it - it prefers quite significant changes to the accelerator position

and I alsi have "flappy paddle" gear change levers by the wheel - I often use these to make sure it does wht I want and doesn;t leave me at high revs for ages
or in to high a gear when I might need it lower


all in all - I reckon they didn;t have the processing power available to do it properly

My CVT is kinda perfect (until one day, of course), but it never hunts for a gear. It is set up as a virtual 8-speed, responds to the gas pedal beautifully and feels just like a very good automatic. It has flappy paddles, but I only used them once, when I got the car. Totally unnecessary those, they could have left it off.
 
I take out car club vehicles, so Im usually fighting new tech. Its a challenge to remember which side the petrol goes in, let alone how to open it.
On my latest venture, the dashboard decided to change design due to some button I accidentally knocked.
The radio volume was buried in 3 levels of touch screen menu. The physical knob was present but hidden.
What kind of idiot designs these controls?
They all go to design college and learn what?
 
Location
Loch side.
No - Honda - there was no key or anything
you just press the flap and it opens
but if the car is locked, it doesn;t work

and even then there is no cap inside the flap - you just push the nozzle in

What is wrong with just opening it with a key???

The Tesla thing was a little feeble joke. They don't have fuel caps....ha ha.
But even a very late adopter like me no longer expects fuel caps to have keys.
 

presta

Legendary Member
Then we got to a twisty mountain road and it started fighting with me over control of the steering wheel.
I'd be f*cking livid if a car did that to me. It wouldn't do it more than once though, it'd be straight back to the dealer for a refund.
What's all this negativity re modern tech'...

...you can't beat radial ply tyres, pas, abs, electric starters, servo assisted brakes, heaters, headrests and the sheer luxury of squidgy steering wheels.
My '86 Accord had all that.
I would settle on a 2CV please
A Cortina or Capri would do, if this sort of nonsense is the alternative.
auto-stop at traffic lights that cannot be permanently turned off
I could never trust that to start on cue. Reliably. Every time.
do we really need low-profile tyres for everyday driving on dodgy roads?
Did you see Panorama on potholes last night? At the current rate of progress it would take 180 years to fill them all. Blackpool council has come up with a new way of repairing them which is quicker, more reliable, and costs only a third of the price. Is everyone else using it? Of course they aren't.
I take out car club vehicles, so Im usually fighting new tech. Its a challenge to remember which side the petrol goes in

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vupgBykQnko

The Tesla thing was a little feeble joke. They don't have fuel caps....ha ha.
There's plenty of videos of people trying to put petrol in them though.
 
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