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PK99

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[QUOTE 4579272, member: 259"]My daughter's doing a uni year in Montreal and absolutely loves it. She would stay if she could. I like the food and the bonkers French as well. All our family speak French and we have enough skills points to migrate, but we never quite made it somehow and wedoubt we ever will now. My son has a Belgian passport, so very easy for him to get a job there.[/QUOTE]

D1 has had a hankering to work abroad for a long time and has worked as a student and travelled quite extensively in the USA at the time and since. She is a mountains, surfing, skiing, hiking, cycling person. She entered the Canadian Young Person's working visa ballot and came out first time in may this year. She was quite prepared - to my horror filled admiration - to simply quit in London and arrive in Vancouver jobless. Thankfully she listened to parental advice and did a proper job search and has found a job in Health Care consulting that fits very well on her CV as a career move.

I am SO jealous.
 

burndust

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Canada is wonderful country visited every year since 2012, given the opportunity i'd go in a heartbeat!
 

Flying_Monkey

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If it turns out to be permanent, she would sell her London flat and buy there, in the meantime she will rent it out for more than the mortgage.

Ah, if she has a flat in London to sell then she might not have so much of a problem getting a place in Vancouver...

I was looking for a job in BC (among other places) before I got the one where I am now in Ontario. I'd still go to Vancouver if I had the choice and the resouces, but I'm settled where I am now.
 

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Vancouver and Montreal _ chalk and fromage..
For nightlife fun and culture pick Montreal for the outdoor life pick the other place
The exchange rate is up and down but mostly down in your favour at the moment
 
It is years since I've lived in the Great White North and a few since I last visited - for the 2010 Winter Olympics - yet I feel my comments/thoughts/observations remain valid.

What sort of advice are you looking for? (from a parental perspective or from hers?!)

At C$80k, I could live very, very comfortably. Van may be considered expensive by north american standards but compared to London it will seem cheap.
Taxes are considerably lower. Healthcare needs to paid for - but I would imagine for her line of work this will be covered by her employer or directly deducted from her pay, so she won't miss it.
And talking of tax, VAT is handled differently and may at first seem confusing. Retail prices do not include Provincial Sales Tax (PST) nor Canada's version of VAT, GST. In BC, PST =7%, GST = 5%, so cost price is 12% more than shown.
There is no such thing as free banking in Canada. (Bank profits are good and do not require government support!).

Accommodation. This is relatively expensive, and like all cities, the 'better' residential areas are more costly. Van is a fast growing city and a very popular location. House prices reflect this. It is one area I would pay attention to. As noted above, commuter traffic can be a nightmare e.g. from North Van to downtown. If her work is located downtown it needs careful consideration.

Climate. Umbrellas are not required any more than the UK! It is a temperate oceanic climate hence it rains. But it does not get cold or snow like the rest of the country- often. Snow may be found in winter nearby and I'll come to that.

Culture. There is plenty and diversity. If she wants. Just different from London/Montreal.

Food/Wine. Both thriving in Van. There are good, creative chefs and BC wines are excellent. (Most made a few hours drive east in the Okanagan Valley and would highly recommend a visit!)

Transport. Downtown cars are an encumbrance. Bike infrastructure is improving all the time. I am not up to speed on the efficiency of public transport - I understand the rapid transit to be good. Getting away a car is considered a necessity. Both cars and gas (petrol) are much cheaper than UK.

Leisure. D1 enjoys mountains, surfing, skiing, hiking and biking. She will have access to all these in an abundance she will not believe. Most Brits are aware of the Whistler complex, rated one of the best in north america, if not the world. However, there a plenty more. Likewise skiing, including proper Nordic skiing not just the lazy Alpine skiing. (yes, I'm biased!). She could hike for days without seeing another soul if she desired. Biking - mountain or road? Or trendy gravel? Plenty of places to choose from. The Sea to Sky Gran Fondo has quickly become a huge event in a short time frame held in september each year. And even surfing is well catered for if you where to look.

BC is vast. As is Canada. Van is closer to Japan than western Europe. This is why vehicles (or boats or planes - some places are only accessible by boat or small plane) are required to get away from the city to your very own adventure playground quickly. If you want to hike or fish for days without coming across another human, it is possible.

I visited Van twice to consider relocating but it was not for me, at those times. Most folk feel the exact opposite. It is a young person's paradise. People are generally very friendly and tolerant, as is the canadian way. I feel she will have no difficulty meeting other young people - I have a young relative who has just graduated from UBC; I know a young Brit who lives in whistler; my nieces are 18 months into a 24 month stint at Panorama, BC - one has become an adrenaline junkie!; others are older.

Ask away! And feel free to PM me if you would like some young folk contacts.
 
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It is years since I've lived in the Great White North and a few since I last visited - for the 2010 Winter Olympics - yet I feel my comments/thoughts/observations remain valid.

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Ask away! And feel free to PM me if you would like some young folk contacts.

Wow. Thank you for taking the time to post all that. I'll pass it on to D1 and she may well be in touch for those contacts.
 

Drago

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D1 has just accepted a job in Vancouver - a mix of lifestyle choice and career move. Already has a pre approved Young person's work visa.

Just wondered if any of our Canadian brethren or folks with experience of Canada have any advice I could pass on.

London salary is £54k
Vancouver salary is C$80k plus benefits
How do these compare in terms of lifestyle they buy?

What exactly is she seeking lifestyle wise?

Formexample, a chap I know, high ranking diesel development engineer. Earned a good whack, nice house, nice car. Was fed up with the UK, emigrated to Australia, chasing visions of working half a day a week for three quarters of a mill' and drinking cocktails in the sun.

he now does much the same job, lives in a broadly similar house, drives a comparably nice car. Downside is he works harder, has less time off, and by federal law his kids aren't allowed out in the playground between 11am and 2pm because of the skin cancer risk, and he seems equally stressed and miserable when he comes back to visit.

If your lass has clearly defined goals, aims, and has identified a plan, a means to achieve them, then fair play to her. If she's going because the thinks it'll somehow be intrinsically, indefinably 'better' then she's heading for the same problems she faces Blighty, just with a silly accent.
 
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PK99

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No problem at all; will post more if anything springs to mind.

And what advice were you looking for, as asked in post #1?!

Very much what you posted!

She was round tonight and said she had been reassured by your post that her preconceptions of Vancouver seem to be not too far off the mark.

Its a very gutsy thing she is doing and reassurance all round is important.

Plus I suppose the "Morden is next door to Wimbledon but light years away in livability" sort of thing and the little cultural foibles that newcomer. can fall foul of
 

slowmotion

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Quite a few of my family's friends moved to Canada when they were in their mid-twenties. None of them have expressed any regrets whatsoever. They love the place. When we have visited and talked to recently arrived UK people, they say they love it too. D1 has nothing to lose.
 
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