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Had a lovely luncheon of two slices of wholemeal toast, one with filet american and the other with sliced avocado, then an apple, a banana and two :cuppa:

Did another chunk on my research article. Well, it's 16 pages, so it's more a dissertation now than an article. Ooops... Then spent the rest of the afternoon gardening. Finished potting on the tomatoes and took the chainsaw to the wood that I needed to move.

Now sat with a :cuppa: and a chunk of Green & Black choccy with ginger.
 

PeteXXX

Cake or ice cream? The choice is endless ...
Location
Hamtun
I'm picking my 8 yr old grandson from school tomorrow. We have football on the green planned, followed by a cello 'recital' before we make Hot Dogs & pancakes 🥞
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
When I did my theatre studies course we had to read a "classic" play a week; we looked forward to Shakespeare because it at least had a good story behind it. The other classic plays came in three categories: Bilge, Incomprehensible Bilge; and Depressing Bilge.

This may be why Shakespeare is held up to be so essential; it's the only stuff that doesn't cause people to consider sticking pencils in their eyeballs. It's no wonder theatre isn't mainstream.

I really pi**ed of the tutors by writing comedies.

It's the total Tudor attempt to re-right of history I'm not a fan of or the total political assassination of Richard III the mocking and enhancement of disability to at the time help with sales. Which never gets questioned when many other historical texts, stories get pulled to bits due to todays views have been. Or the way he's held up as some sort of god by the gate keepers to the arts, students don't study it for love they have no choice. Come exam time they just reel off the spoon fed lessons without a thought. The same texts year after year it's just so dry and meaningless. No wonder It turns off many from lit for years. If they get it great, they get a top grade. If not they fail and branded for life as thick and get cut off from the arts.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
English Lit paper this morning on Shakespeare. Why are we still using him as a gold standard and bench mark of what literature is.
Which we all should follow or we are somewhat infer. I really don't know may as well be on harry potter for what good it is.
Keeping nearly 400 students happy for 2 hours of this stuff is not easy and that before you get onto managing toilet visits.

Nice afternoon walk dog walk in the sun then quick trip to town. Off in the garden in a bit to plant up the back garden border I prepped yesterday.
Toilet breaks during an exam!

Once in the exam hall we weren't allowed to leave until the exam was over. For any reason, other than the fire alarm going off or medical emergency.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
:eek::blink::wacko:
so classic


wondering if the person on the phone is even in your country

I have 2 branches of my bank in my town. they both have drive-thru ATMs
  • if I forget my card in 1 machine I can go in the next day & they will have it, right there, in the office
  • if I forget my card in the other machine, it's not inside, in the office, right there, it's gone for good & I have to order another one
who is making these company decisions?
Leave me out of this! I'll admit I was one of the backroom bods who sent out such paperwork, and dealt with similar enquiries. But that was over here, not over there.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
A bit more weeding done with 3 snails found hiding in the watercan to stop water coming out of the spout
They're getting clever them snails.
You're certain they were just hiding?
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
Toilet breaks during an exam!

Once in the exam hall we weren't allowed to leave until the exam was over. For any reason, other than the fire alarm going off or medical emergency.

My undergraduates have a 24-hour exam starting tomorrow morning, with those who have additional time getting 36 hours.

That's a looong time to keep your legs crossed :whistle:
 
It's the total Tudor attempt to re-right of history I'm not a fan of or the total political assassination of Richard III the mocking and enhancement of disability to at the time help with sales. Which never gets questioned when many other historical texts, stories get pulled to bits due to todays views have been. Or the way he's held up as some sort of god by the gate keepers to the arts, students don't study it for love they have no choice. Come exam time they just reel off the spoon fed lessons without a thought. The same texts year after year it's just so dry and meaningless. No wonder It turns off many from lit for years. If they get it great, they get a top grade. If not they fail and branded for life as thick and get cut off from the arts.

Sorry, but I'm with @Andy in Germany on this one.

You could use the same argument about Dickens, whose works were a scathing commentary on the societal injustices of his day. Or Huxley, who used science fiction for broadly similar ends, likewise Orwell.

It's not just about learning the texts, but also understanding the context in which they were written. of course Richard III and the various Henry plays are Tudor propaganda - you have to understand that the Tudor claim to the throne was tenuous, made even more so as it was through salic descent.

Henry VII was so paranoid about being deposed because others had a better claim than him, that England was effectively a police state during his reign, even after he had secured the succession with two sons - Arthur and Henry. And it's for the same reason that Henry VIII was so damn desperate for a male heir. Villifying Richard through satire and twisting the truth was no different to the attempts of current politicians blackening their opponents reputations, but it was effective, because at the time, large swathes of the population were still illiterate.

Plus of course, you have the fact that writers, playwrights, musicians, painters and sculptors of Shakespeare's era worked under a system of patronage, whereby they produced works, usually for their patrons and for other wealthy people, while the patron paid the bills and effectively advertised them in their particular social circles. Without such patronages, we wouldn't have the richness of literature, poetry, music, art and sculpture that we do, and the world would be all the poorer for it. But the downside of the system, is that if someone is paying your bills, you have to write / paint what pleases them. You cannot please yourself.

And the "historical" plays aside, many of Shakespeare's works are shrewd observations of the Human condition. Twelfth Night is bloody hilarious - cross-dressing, mistaken identity and drunken shenanigans, Hamlet and Macbeth highlight how ambition can drive people to do terrible things, Titus Andronicus is about horribly gruesome revenge and Merchant of Venice is about how racism twists people's perception of society.

As for the sonnets... No words speak louder to me than this:

As long as men can breathe and eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
 
It's the total Tudor attempt to re-right of history I'm not a fan of or the total political assassination of Richard III the mocking and enhancement of disability to at the time help with sales. Which never gets questioned when many other historical texts, stories get pulled to bits due to todays views have been. Or the way he's held up as some sort of god by the gate keepers to the arts, students don't study it for love they have no choice. Come exam time they just reel off the spoon fed lessons without a thought. The same texts year after year it's just so dry and meaningless. No wonder It turns off many from lit for years. If they get it great, they get a top grade. If not they fail and branded for life as thick and get cut off from the arts.

Shakespeare was a bit of a grifter and quite happy to indulge in stereotypes to get a few sales.

I did once make a workshop on "Macbeth" which looked at how it was quite likely a pitch at James VI and I, and as such is a very well written bit of flattery for every prejudice and pretence the king had; he was basically offering to rewrite history on behalf of the new monarch if he was taken on the royal payroll.

Personally I find that as interesting as the play; certainly it makes a lot more sense to read the play in that light, and in one play you can discuss propaganda, the dangers of historical revisionism, and how easy it is to pick on one group in society and demonise them: James has a particular thing about witches; I mean a real creepy obsession with them, so Shakespeare sprinkled references to then current events ion the witches speeches that he knew James would agree with.

As you say, it was completely ignored by my teachers at school. Worse, I never did get a chance to try out that workshop...
 
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