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Also, you can't read "To Kill a Mockingbird" or "The Grapes of Wrath" or "Lord of the Flies" or "The Crucible" without understanding why they were written. This is the power of literature and why it so compelling.

And it's why we have to learn about it, in the same way we have no choice but to learn about trigonometry, town planning, growing copper sulphate crystals and parsing French verbs...
 

classic33

Leg End Member
My undergraduates have a 24-hour exam starting tomorrow morning, with those who have additional time getting 36 hours.

That's a looong time to keep your legs crossed :whistle:
They'll have had time to get used to dealing with that though.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Also, you can't read "To Kill a Mockingbird" or "The Grapes of Wrath" or "Lord of the Flies" or "The Crucible" without understanding why they were written. This is the power of literature and why it so compelling.

And it's why we have to learn about it, in the same way we have no choice but to learn about trigonometry, town planning, growing copper sulphate crystals and parsing French verbs...
There's town planners up and down the country that can't have been paying attention in class then.
 
Shakespeare was a bit of a grifter and quite happy to indulge in stereotypes to get a few sales.

I did once make a workshop on "Macbeth" which looked at how it was quite likely a pitch at James VI and I, and as such is a very well written bit of flattery for every prejudice and pretence the king had; he was basically offering to rewrite history on behalf of the new monarch if he was taken on the royal payroll.

Personally I find that as interesting as the play; certainly it makes a lot more sense to read the play in that light, and in one play you can discuss propaganda, the dangers of historical revisionism, and how easy it is to pick on one group in society and demonise them James has a particular thing about witches; I mean a real creepy obsession with them, so Shakespeare sprinkled references to then current events ion the witches speeches that he knew James would agree with.

As you say, it was completely ignored by my teachers at school. Worse, I never did get a chance to try out that workshop...

You have to admit, he did a damn good job with the Wyrd Sisters... As did I, methinks... :biggrin:

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And yes, there *IS* a cat in there... Madam Poppy is under a grey blanket pretending to be a rock. A bit like Snout pretending to be a wall in "A Midsummer Night's Dream"
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Sorry, but I'm with @Andy in Germany on this one.

You could use the same argument about Dickens, whose works were a scathing commentary on the societal injustices of his day. Or Huxley, who used science fiction for broadly similar ends, likewise Orwell.

It's not just about learning the texts, but also understanding the context in which they were written. of course Richard III and the various Henry plays are Tudor propaganda - you have to understand that the Tudor claim to the throne was tenuous, made even more so as it was through salic descent.

Henry VII was so paranoid about being deposed because others had a better claim than him, that England was effectively a police state during his reign, even after he had secured the succession with two sons - Arthur and Henry. And it's for the same reason that Henry VIII was so damn desperate for a male heir. Villifying Richard through satire and twisting the truth was no different to the attempts of current politicians blackening their opponents reputations, but it was effective, because at the time, large swathes of the population were still illiterate.

Plus of course, you have the fact that writers, playwrights, musicians, painters and sculptors of Shakespeare's era worked under a system of patronage, whereby they produced works, usually for their patrons and for other wealthy people, while the patron paid the bills and effectively advertised them in their particular social circles. Without such patronages, we wouldn't have the richness of literature, poetry, music, art and sculpture that we do, and the world would be all the poorer for it. But the downside of the system, is that if someone is paying your bills, you have to write / paint what pleases them. You cannot please yourself.

And the "historical" plays aside, many of Shakespeare's works are shrewd observations of the Human condition. Twelfth Night is bloody hilarious - cross-dressing, mistaken identity and drunken shenanigans, Hamlet and Macbeth highlight how ambition can drive people to do terrible things, Titus Andronicus is about horribly gruesome revenge and Merchant of Venice is about how racism twists people's perception of society.

As for the sonnets... No words speak louder to me than this:

As long as men can breathe and eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
And all written by Francis Bacon.
 

tyred

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Location
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When will people learn to read the e mails they get sent

They don't.

I spent many years in technical support and it always irritated me that I often spent ages writing emails with clear step by step instructions only to have the recipient phone in a few days later moaning about not getting what they wanted.

"Did you follow the instructions in the email I sent you on Wednesday?"
"What instructions? Oh yeah, never read it properly! Thanks for that!":banghead:
 

classic33

Leg End Member
I'll have a look at it in the morning, but I can't see how to get inside it. The outer casing seems to have been moulded as a single assembly - there aren't any screws.

Done the obvious things like de-crumbing and putting a new fuse in, but it smells like there's burnt wiring in there.
I'm sure if the toaster could let you know, this is what it'd be saying

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QAmu90TVbak
 
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