My commute just got a bit better - Segregated cycle lane vauxhall bridge

[gaz]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQpzniJ4Z8o


This is unfortunately going to end up being two way. But boy is it better than what we had. I foresee issues with the pedestrian crossing, will have to take it easy there.

this is what it used to look like

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j64ouTbCHLs

 

[Simpleton]

Nope, still would rather use the road. And I hope as a political statement no one uses that cycle lane, and I do mean no one, not one soul save for perhaps a wee nipper out on thier bike with their parents.

But politically this is shocking. Why can't the Goverment simply say to motorised road users that cyclists have the right to ride on the road and bring in the laws to protect us as well as other vulnerable toad users. But no, build a stupid farking cycle path so the caged farkhead can point to where I should be cycling. Yeah, within a soon to be two way cycle lane - dream on.

 

[jonny jeez]

It's not a segregated lane, they just shove you up on the pavement to conflict with pedestrians as they walk along oblivious to the new risk...two near misses in that video alone.

Terrible, would avoid at all costs.

When the he'll comes up with these ideas?

EDIT...Who in the Hell .....

there, that's not quite so scotish

 

[Tin Pot]

When the he'll indeed.

 

[Origamist]

I didn't think that was too bad (for non-Londoners, the Vauxhall Bridge area has been very cycling unfriendly for decades), but if it is going to be a two-way path, it's too narrow and disappointing for sure.

 

[Tin Pot]

There was consultation on this wasn't there?

The improvements
The improvements we are introducing along the route for cyclists and other road users include:

Vauxhall Bridge Road

• A segregated two-way cycle track on Vauxhall Bridge Road, with easier connections to Cycle Superhighway 8
• Wider footways and simplified pedestrian crossings at the Drummond Gate junction
• Shared footway area at the Millbank junction to help cyclists turn onto and from Cycle Superhighway 5

Vauxhall Bridge

• A two-way segregated cycle track over the bridge, providing a physical barrier for the 3,000 cyclists that use the bridge every day. The cycle track is now open to cyclists travelling south over the river

Vauxhall gyratory

• Pedestrian crossing and junction improvements
• Existing cycle track converted to one-way under the rail bridge
• Redesign of shared cyclist/pedestrian spaces to improve safety and comfort

Harleyford Road

• A footway level segregated cycle track
• New and upgraded pedestrian crossings
• A bus stop bypass where cyclists are taken behind the bus shelter, away from traffic

 

[steveindenmark]

And did you see that cyclist jumping the red light.

I think cycling on that cycle path would be a lot safer than riding on the road and probably quicker.

Simpleton. What you are wishing for is not going to happen, it just isnt.

 

[Simpleton]

And did you see that cyclist jumping the red light.

I think cycling on that cycle path would be a lot safer than riding on the road and probably quicker.

Simpleton. What you are wishing for is not going to happen, it just isnt.

It's happened in France, Holland, Spain, Denmark, Sweden.....keep the faith Steve, keep the faith.

Edit:

http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media...ccidents-and-presumed-liability-uk-vs-europe/

In fact, the UK along with only a handful of countries are the only ones in Europe that does not have some sort of presumed liability law.

 

[jonny jeez]

When the he'll indeed.

Its the Scot in me...and the dyslexic.

I am neither by the way, just crap at using a smartphone.

 

[steveindenmark]

It's happened in France, Holland, Spain, Denmark, Sweden.....keep the faith Steve, keep the faith.

Edit:

http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media...ccidents-and-presumed-liability-uk-vs-europe/

In fact, the UK along with only a handful of countries are the only ones in Europe that does not have some sort of presumed liability law.

I actually live in Denmark and our system of cycling and cycle paths is brillant. But it appears that we have a totally different attitude to cycle paths to some UK cyclists. It seems that when councils in the UK put in cycle paths, some cyclists think their civil liberties are being infringed. In Denmark we welcome cycle paths and often have parties when they are opened.

The law in the UK doesnt help. In Denmark if there is a cycle path you must use it and we are glad to do that. In the UK cyclists can make their own minds up if they use them or not. Im sure that cannot help motorists or cyclists.

We have presumed liability in Denmark but it is not a big issue but it makes cyclists King of the road. Because cycling is so popular in Denmark, drivers are very aware of cyclists. Most of them are cyclists or have family that are. We dont have the animosity between cyclists and drivers that you seem to have in the UK.

But if cyclists are provided with a cycle path like that on the video and then other cyclists advise other cyclists not to use it. Then you will never get it sorted in the UK.

This is a cycle path on the way home from work. I know where I prefer to ride.

 

[steveindenmark]

We dont look at it as a big issue as it is the norm for us. Of course it helps us but the mindset to Danish drivers is different to UK drivers. They are used to cycling and cyclists and know what to look out for, they grew up with it.

Obviously if you dont have it, then it is a big deal.

 

[MontyVeda]

I actually live in Denmark and our system of cycling and cycle paths is brillant. But it appears that we have a totally different attitude to cycle paths to some UK cyclists. It seems that when councils in the UK put in cycle paths, some cyclists think their civil liberties are being infringed. In Denmark we welcome cycle paths and often have parties when they are opened.

The law in the UK doesnt help. In Denmark if there is a cycle path you must use it and we are glad to do that. In the UK cyclists can make their own minds up if they use them or not. Im sure that cannot help motorists or cyclists.

We have presumed liability in Denmark but it is not a big issue but it makes cyclists King of the road. Because cycling is so popular in Denmark, drivers are very aware of cyclists. Most of them are cyclists or have family that are. We dont have the animosity between cyclists and drivers that you seem to have in the UK.

But if cyclists are provided with a cycle path like that on the video and then other cyclists advise other cyclists not to use it. Then you will never get it sorted in the UK.

This is a cycle path on the way home from work. I know where I prefer to ride.

Whilst I agree with you... it depends on the cycle lane. Whilst there's plenty that resemble the one pictured above, too many look like this...

...Cyclists turning left at the roundabout are supposed to use the shared use pavement... but those going straight over or turning right at the roundabout are advised to stay in the cycle lane on the left hand side of the carriageway, when really they should be taking primary in the same lanes the cars would use. This is one example of a badly planned cycle lane that really shouldn't exist, and thank feck it's not mandatory... but try telling the drivers that.

Edit... I'd like to add that in spite of the many poor stretches of silly cycle lanes around here, the council has put an excellent cycling infrastructure in over the last few decades, mainly on the disused railway routes between Lancaster, Morecambe, Glasson Dock and the Lune Valley

 

[steveindenmark]

I have seen lots of appauling cycle paths in the UK.

I have yet to find a bad one in Denmark yet. But I will look for one. The problem is that the planners know what they are doing. On new roads the cycle path goes in first.

 

[MontyVeda]

I have seen lots of appauling cycle paths in the UK.

I have yet to find a bad one in Denmark yet. But I will look for one. The problem is that the planners know what they are doing. On new roads the cycle path goes in first.

I think the planners know what they're doing here too... every metre of cycle lane, no matter how bad adds up to a government grant and a 'celebrating cycling' sign.

 

[SW19cam]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQpzniJ4Z8o


This is unfortunately going to end up being two way. But boy is it better than what we had. I foresee issues with the pedestrian crossing, will have to take it easy there.

this is what it used to look like

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j64ouTbCHLs

Doesn't look like everyone agrees, but it looks substantially better to me!