My latest car related entertainment

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by JhnBssll, 10 Aug 2019.

  1. meta lon

    meta lon Guru

    Good man, be firm.. Especially now the bolt missing has reared its head.
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  2. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    Am I just lucky with my cars? Or are you lot unlucky?

    I've had:

    Ford Ka for 50k miles - only major job was some flap in the heater that failed (common on the early ones apparently) so you can't get hot air. Hat to get that fixed, was a cold winter.
    Alfa 156 for 100k miles - suspension bushes wore out and servicing was expensive, but it never broke down
    SportKa for 20k miles - nothing went wrong
    Mondeo Mk2 - 15k miles - nothing went wrong
    Fiat Multipla - for 25k miles - was a shed when I bought it from a cowboy. His 'repair' went wrong, but to be fair he fixed it with the proper parts and was fine until it all started to go wrong all at once at 12 years old and 150k miles
    Seat Leon for 10k miles - bought it cheap, Had a leaky fuel filter, fitted it properly, nothing went wrong other than the key broke after 12 months and it turned out the locks didn't work with the key - but it was a £700 car. New key was only £50.
    Citroen Picasso for 25k miles - engine mount failed. £30 fix at local garage. Remote key never worked and replacement was £150 so didn't bother. Metal in drivers door lock wore out in the end, and arm rests fell off
    Honda Civic - 10k miles ABS sensor replaced, a/c condenser replaced (but it was 9 yrs / 130k miles old at the time) 1 x damper
    Ford Fiesta - 5k miles needed roll bar buses for MOT once. Nothing went wrong
    Honda Civic - 20k miles - new a/c condenser (annoying having paid for one on previous Civic that was written off) 3 x dampers replaced but age related
  3. gbb

    gbb Legendary Member

    It's worth remembering, theres a lot of responsibility and trust held in a car mechanic. Fair play to the garage for holding their hands up. Knowing the way some garages work, flitting car to car while waiting for spares or similar, it's a very easy thing to overlook something and very important not to. When I'm doing a big stripdown on machinery I always stand back and survey where I've been...did I do that up, that and that, everything. The worst thing is if you're working in a pair, the risk doubles.
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  4. OP

    JhnBssll Über Member

    I couldn't agree more. Of course part of the responsibility lies with the mechanic, but a larger portion lies with the management in creating an environment and systems in which the mechanics are able to do their job properly. Missing a bolt from an engine mount is not the fault of one individual, it's a systemic failure. I will be encouraging them to take no action on any individual other than perhaps some re-education :laugh:
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  5. meta lon

    meta lon Guru

    Talking of your expensive bolt..
    I needed a new engine sprocket nut for a Kawasaki KH 250 in was NINE pounds!!
    I said to the guy, thats bloody dear, he replied bloody Extortion nut :laugh:
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  6. OP

    JhnBssll Über Member

    Its like the old joke with the bloke buying an engagement ring where they go up through increasingly expensive materials; Silver, titanium, gold, palladium, platinum then finally Japanese plastic :laugh:
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  7. DCBassman

    DCBassman Veteran

    If you buy new and do all servicing through MB, some of the warranty extends to 30 years, bodywork in particular.
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  8. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    Bdm - tish!

    The shonky repair with the Multipla I had was with the drive shaft nuts which you're supposed to replace with new if you remove - which they had, to do the clutch. Because they take quite a lot of load they are made of some special metal, but the garage didn't have any, so they used normal bolts, which sheared off in fairly short order, leaving the car with no drive, obviously. I think the bolts were £3 each, and you needed 5, so £15. For the sake of which, the dealer had to send out their low loader, recover the car to their garage (about 25 miles), loan me a car (the shoddiest heap off the lot - it had soft tyres so I pumped them up and a huge egg popped out of one) and then pay their mechanic to tear it down again and rebuild it with the proper bolts. I imagine the idea was that the normal bolts they had used would last longer than the 3 month guarantee. I bought the bolts off Fiat myself and left them on the passenger seat before they collected it for repair.
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  9. meta lon

    meta lon Guru

    They often use "single use stretch bolts" for certain things like cylinder heads, engi e mountings ect for accurately torquing up bolts, plus they are dry torque figures s, so adding coppa slip over stresses the bolt, common diy mistake, as we think it wont sieze next time..
  10. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    South Manchester
    Any news OP ?
  11. Cletus Van Damme

    Cletus Van Damme Previously known as Cheesney Hawks

    Car manufacturers. The price that they charge for parts. I guess it depends if you think it's justified that they need to make money. I have had several Honda's, one the Civic MB6, was based on a Rover 45. I could get the same part if it was trim related, for vastly cheaper than off Rover. I would guess it was made in the exact same factory.

    Everybody to their own though. It's obvious to see with the vast amount of used components on Ebay from crash damaged cars, that a lot of people don't want to be fleeced, me included.
    Last edited: 16 Aug 2019 at 11:31
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  12. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    Point of order - the Rover 45 was based on the Honda, an arrangement that started with the Triumph Acclaim.
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  13. meta lon

    meta lon Guru

    Ah yes the Triumph Acclaim
    "totally equipping to triumph" they said.
    Tho not a bad car to be fair
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  14. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    My grandparents had two. The 'CD' (Car of Distinction) one had headlamp washers, electric mirrors and four electric windows. In 1983!
  15. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    I bet you expect to make a profit, sure thing I do.
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