Breaker Morant
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If the cyclist had gone left he would have in turn collided with pedestrian tghe who was also crossing against the lights.
Everyone in that scenario was at fault, cyclist, driver, bus driver, peds.
Nasty Near Miss Witnessed
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Everyone in that scenario was at fault, cyclist, driver, bus driver, peds.
Riding in Circles
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I saw someone do almost exactly the same thing to a motorcycle on Friday, also driving a Golf.
However he wasn't turning left.. I fail to see how this is relevant.
Eh?
He could have gone on and robbed a bank. Totally irrelevant.
In the clip the cyclist did nothing wrong, the driver did.
GrasB
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As the lights turn green we have a bus with a cyclist in front pulling away from the lights, with a cyclist doing a damn good job of leaving the bus standing. Both are going straight on so take priority over someone turning right. Some pedestrians taking the opportunity to cross the side road crossing in what seems a safe window as neither the cyclist nor the bus are turning left. Then we have the Golf driver who accelerates forwards in an attempt to beat the bus to the crossing not taking into consideration the movement of the cyclist or the fact there were pedestrians (quite legally) crossing the road. There was only one person who was acting in a dangerous manner & that was the WV driver trying to force a gap in front of the bus when the situation didn't provide gap for him to go through.
Thomk
Guru
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- Warwickshire
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DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
I'd report it - and looking closely the only one here that's definately in the wrong is the VW driver. The bus driver seems to have slowed to avoid an accident, the cyclist didn't see anyone!
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
Something which everyone else has missed, the VW doesn't appear to be indicating.
GrasB
Veteran
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
I wasn't sure either way but I tend not to look at indicators anymore. The standard of their use is soo variable they're next to useless.
Arfcollins
Soft southerner.
- Location
- Fareham
Damn those Golf drivers, they have a lot to answer for!
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
Wha? You're not making any sense here. The only idiot in the video is the car driver. Can't see the bus, cyclist, or pedestrian doing anything wrong.
derrick
The Glue that binds us together.
- Location
- On the edge of London
It looks like a normal day on the road, see this stuff all the time, i know the driver was out of order, but they all had enough room, well sort of. at least no one was hurt.
Interesting thread and (through clenched teeth) interesting footage. My thoughts:
1. Not clear whether the Golf is indicating. If not, he is naughty but no different from almost every driver in my county.
2. I think the cyclist is fine. Snappily away, but that's his right. Not doing anything illegal or discourteous.
3. The bus driver seems good to me. He appears to slow for the Golf, but in a throttling-off way rather than a middle-pedal way.
4. The pedestrians are not a part of this for me. They are a long way from the Golf. That is normal urban-junction pedestrian road-crossing to me.
5. The Golf seems (seems) to dab the footbrake to swish between bike and bus. My guess (can't be anything more) is that he went to whip across ahead of the bus and noticed the cyclist late. He avoided both but will have scared the cyclist and inconvenienced the bus driver. It was a poor piece of driving.
Many, many drivers will see a slow vehicle at the head of the facing line of traffic when waiting to turn right at a red light. Some of them will think it smart to move quickly and get across its bows before it reaches the centre of the junction. They are usually wrong. It is not a smart thing to do. it doesn't allow for unseen bicycles and motorbikes and it introduces too many variables when there is over a ton of steel moving between other road users.
I think it is poor driving and I wouldn't report it. However, had there been contact between any of the participants, it would be the car driver Isd look to to foot the bill.
1. Not clear whether the Golf is indicating. If not, he is naughty but no different from almost every driver in my county.
2. I think the cyclist is fine. Snappily away, but that's his right. Not doing anything illegal or discourteous.
3. The bus driver seems good to me. He appears to slow for the Golf, but in a throttling-off way rather than a middle-pedal way.
4. The pedestrians are not a part of this for me. They are a long way from the Golf. That is normal urban-junction pedestrian road-crossing to me.
5. The Golf seems (seems) to dab the footbrake to swish between bike and bus. My guess (can't be anything more) is that he went to whip across ahead of the bus and noticed the cyclist late. He avoided both but will have scared the cyclist and inconvenienced the bus driver. It was a poor piece of driving.
Many, many drivers will see a slow vehicle at the head of the facing line of traffic when waiting to turn right at a red light. Some of them will think it smart to move quickly and get across its bows before it reaches the centre of the junction. They are usually wrong. It is not a smart thing to do. it doesn't allow for unseen bicycles and motorbikes and it introduces too many variables when there is over a ton of steel moving between other road users.
I think it is poor driving and I wouldn't report it. However, had there been contact between any of the participants, it would be the car driver Isd look to to foot the bill.
GrasB
Veteran
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- Nr Cambridge
It maybe normal but that doesn't make it acceptable for other road users to force people to take evasive action on a daily basis because they need to prove how big... small their appendage is.
Hip Priest
Veteran
More horsepower than ability. That's the issue here. Lucky nobody was hurt.