Nearly did a SMIDSY

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J4CKO

New Member
Am in the car still (back on the bike on Monday) but was at a junction near home waiting to turn right, its quite busy and still pretty dark at that time of the morning and can be quite a fast road despite being a 30, it can be difficult to tell when you can go as the obligatory four by four appears to your left so you cant see, I dont like this junction and in these situations for a little extra sensory information I turn the radio off, blower off if on high and open both front windows, it was wet this morning but not that busy for once, one car goes past from the right and then its clear for me to go both ways and I was about to go but wasn't happy with the view from my wet window even given the clear road (always mindful of unlit cars, cars with broken headlamps, peds and cyclists) so wound them down as a bloke on a bike hoves into view, dressed in a black coat, head down into the rain, no lights or reflectors on his bike, hugging the gutter and partially obscured by street furniture and plants.

I had not actually moved so I dont think he had any idea how close he came to getting a car pulling out in front of him, I tend to be quite cautious and I am not saying "look what a superb driver I am" because I am just not but a lot would be sat there, radio blaring, windows opaque, on the phone and just pulled out and hit the cretin riding in low visibility conditions, dressed in black and unlit.

If you are on a bike, you cannot rely on car drivers, them being dilligent and cautious is only to be used when you really get it wrong, we are at a massive disadvantage, our stakes are far higher, but you lot all know that, how do you get that across to matey boy and his ilk ?

I feel now like I should have stopped him and told him how I had nearly pulled out on him and why.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
J4CKO said:
I feel now like I should have stopped him and told him how I had nearly pulled out on him and why.
No point, the guy is clearly an imbecile if he thinks that that's a sfe way to ride a bike.

Well done to you though for taking the time/effort to get a clear view of the road - most don't bother.
 
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J4CKO

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Cheers, not looking for any credit (my Ego is big enough already ;)), just trying to point out how split second decisions even by motorists not behaving make a big difference, the difference being between tenses, I want drivers to think "What the F*ck is that I can see" not "What the f*ck was that loud thud".
 
BentMikey said:
In the rain with no lights? Madness.


....and no Hi-Viz either,madness.;)

If you are on a bike, you cannot rely on car drivers, them being dilligent and cautious is only to be used when you really get it wrong, we are at a massive disadvantage, our stakes are far higher, but you lot all know that, how do you get that across to matey boy and his ilk ?

Im no BentMikey but im pretty aware that motorists and just about every vehicle on the road have blind spots....so I try and catch their eye....just like everyone else on here.
 

thegrumpybiker

New Member
Location
North London
J4CKO said:
we are at a massive disadvantage, our stakes are far higher

I can't believe the amount of riders I see that seem to place such a low priority on their self preservation, they range from the "not a cyclist just an idiot on a bike" that meanders between pavement and road (going in the wrong direction) whilst texting, the too cool for schoolers without lights in the dark, but the people I really don't get is the keen and experienced cyclist who still insists on listening to his walkman (come on, we've all seen them- and I'm pretty sure there'll be some regular contributers here that do it)
Having your ears open to the surroundings is one of the few advantages us cyclists have in the big bad world out there, I just don't get why anyone would compromise such a valuable asset.

I leave you with Albert Einstein: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe"
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Saying some cyclists are not cyclists, but idiots on bikes or POBs is both wrong and snooty. Everyone who rides is a cyclist, and we should be thankful to the less experienced or sensible ones out there thanks to safety in numbers.

Oh, and nonsense to your headphones rubbish too.
 
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J4CKO

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thegrumpybiker said:
Having your ears open to the surroundings is one of the few advantages us cyclists have in the big bad world out there, I just don't get why anyone would compromise such a valuable asset.


I agree and I wouldnt do it but some seem to manage ok, I would like music as I cycled but I am not capable enough to loose most of one of my senses and still operate safely though it does seem some are or have stratergies to cope.

When I went from the car I missed the rear view mirror so I put one on the bike, when I go back to the car I miss the extra visibility and auditory cues, hence winding the windows down and cutting off the internal noise sources in the car, have always done that but more so since cycling as it makes you realise more what you lose being sat in a metal box with thick glass windows with several loudspeakers, its a simple idea but not one many people do as god forbid they may get some cold air or shock horror some water on them !
 

thegrumpybiker

New Member
Location
North London
BentMikey said:
Saying some cyclists are not cyclists, but idiots on bikes or POBs is both wrong and snooty. Everyone who rides is a cyclist, and we should be thankful to the less experienced or sensible ones out there thanks to safety in numbers.

Oh, and nonsense to your headphones rubbish too.

OK I'll begrudgingly call them cyclists but they're still firmly in the "Idiots on bikes" sub-group.

Did I miss the report that says "Cycling while iPod listening proven to increase safety" then?
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
It's up to you to prove that headphones decrease safety.

FWIW the whole headphone issue is a red herring. Those of you who are relying on your hearing aren't looking enough. Secondly, there's no need to make the assumption that headphones prevent you from hearing.
 
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J4CKO

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They dont increase safety I would bet but, its up to the individual, maybe we should invent the SMIDHY.
 
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