GuyBoden
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The Parable of the Good Samaritan:
"Which of these three do you think was a neighbour to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
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The Parable of the Good Samaritan:
"Which of these three do you think was a neighbour to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
Slick
Guru
It doesn't change the definition.
GuyBoden
Guru
- Location
- Warrington
"Love Your Neighbour as Yourself"
The definition of neighbour, derived from Hebrew in the Old Testament is not the person living next door, hence my Good Samaritan parable quote.
The definition of neighbour, derived from Hebrew in the Old Testament is not the person living next door, hence my Good Samaritan parable quote.
GuyBoden
Guru
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- Warrington
The modern interpretation of "Neighbour" has obscured the original biblical meaning................
Slick
Guru
Oh, right.
potsy
Rambler
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- My Armchair
Apart from the South African bit he reminds me of someone else
srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
Errrrr.
The point of the parable is that the original meaning of the word - "person who lives nearby" - is insufficient. Well, that and taking the piss out of pharisaic hypocrisy.
The biblical word is πλησίον, which looks like a very standard form of the word meaning "nearby". And is attested as such several hundred years before the gospels.
Unless, of course, you have better evidence?
GuyBoden
Guru
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- Warrington
Yes , I do know better.......... the point of the Good Samaritan parable is to help your neighbours.
I'm trying to convey that using the word "Neighbour" to describe people you don't like and wouldn't help, isn't correct biblically........
srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
TMN to me, please.
Profpointy
Legendary Member
I always thought the parable's meaning was that you should treat total strangers in difficulty as if you were their neighbour. It is unsaid, but assumed, that you would naturally help your actual neighbour. If you redefine "neighbour" to mean everyone the parable no longer has a point.
But hey, I'm atheist and must be 45 years since I heard it read out.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
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- Hexleybeef
My parents live in a private road so i am well accustomed to these disputes.
The solution that the management committee have put in place is that anyone who extends their home now has to pay a bond to the committee, the size of bond is directly related to the size of the extension.
At the end of the building works 50% is returned to the owner, the remaining 50% is retained to make good dange to roads, verges etc.
The solution that the management committee have put in place is that anyone who extends their home now has to pay a bond to the committee, the size of bond is directly related to the size of the extension.
At the end of the building works 50% is returned to the owner, the remaining 50% is retained to make good dange to roads, verges etc.
srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
[QUOTE 5230494, member: 45"]I think the point is that the concept of "oh, he's ok, I know that one, it's the others" is deplorable.[/QUOTE]
One thing that always amuses me about people who quote the Bible at random is that their knowledge of what it actually says, and means, is usually deplorable.
One thing that always amuses me about people who quote the Bible at random is that their knowledge of what it actually says, and means, is usually deplorable.
Our first house was doer-upper, a mid-terrace of four in a nice leafy area. We initially got on really well with all of our neighbours, including the slightly batty, rather prim and proper old dear next door who fancied herself as the preeminent local historian and kept inviting us round for slide shows of the local neighbourhood.
After a couple of months we'd succumbed to this and spent a spectacularly unenjoyable evening with her showing us really boring photos allied to an even more boring commentary. We were there for hours......
Within a day or so she was on at us about another showing, saying that what we'd seen was about a 20th of her collection. At this time we were in our 20s, and if we weren't out socialising, we were spending all available time doing up the house. Consequently we kept giving reasons why we couldn't possibly go round again, but with a vague promise that we would again 'soon'.
Relations remained very friendly, particularly with her husband who was a poppet, and extended as far as us doing some shopping and minor DIY for them. However, after about 9 months of weekly invites, the penny finally dropped with her that we weren't going back again. Big mistake!
Overnight she became a nightmare! Complaining that we were making too much noise (which we weren't), that we were illegally occupying part of their land (they'd sold it to our predecessors), that our shrubs were encroaching their garden (no!), she reported us to the Local Authority about an illegal structure in the garden (shed, smaller than theirs, and no planning required), claimed that we were working illegally from home (not!) etc.
It came to a head when we replaced the old broken fence that divided our gardens. She was adamant that we were going to attempt a land-grab and try to 'steal' a few feet of her garden, and so she spent literally the whole day staring out of her window or out in the garden peering over the fence. She kept giving the fence-builders 'constructive' advice, until they phoned me up in desperation and asked what to do. I told them to move the fence to 1 foot inside our clearly delineated border so that there could be no suggestion that we were encroaching. Still that wasn't sufficient, and after another few hours of being monitored and berated at every move, the gaffer told her to 'eff off' in no uncertain terms.
The sh!tstorm when I got home was unbelievable, and was so outlandish that I found it funny. This was clearly not the reaction that she was expecting.
Ultimately this was the last piece of work that we did at the house and, as always intended, we put this on the market shortly thereafter and moved away.
Remarkably we continued to receive Christmas cards from her lovely husband until he died 10 or so years later, for what must have been a blessed relief! I bet she was incandescent when she saw our cards addressed solely to him!
After a couple of months we'd succumbed to this and spent a spectacularly unenjoyable evening with her showing us really boring photos allied to an even more boring commentary. We were there for hours......
Within a day or so she was on at us about another showing, saying that what we'd seen was about a 20th of her collection. At this time we were in our 20s, and if we weren't out socialising, we were spending all available time doing up the house. Consequently we kept giving reasons why we couldn't possibly go round again, but with a vague promise that we would again 'soon'.
Relations remained very friendly, particularly with her husband who was a poppet, and extended as far as us doing some shopping and minor DIY for them. However, after about 9 months of weekly invites, the penny finally dropped with her that we weren't going back again. Big mistake!
Overnight she became a nightmare! Complaining that we were making too much noise (which we weren't), that we were illegally occupying part of their land (they'd sold it to our predecessors), that our shrubs were encroaching their garden (no!), she reported us to the Local Authority about an illegal structure in the garden (shed, smaller than theirs, and no planning required), claimed that we were working illegally from home (not!) etc.
It came to a head when we replaced the old broken fence that divided our gardens. She was adamant that we were going to attempt a land-grab and try to 'steal' a few feet of her garden, and so she spent literally the whole day staring out of her window or out in the garden peering over the fence. She kept giving the fence-builders 'constructive' advice, until they phoned me up in desperation and asked what to do. I told them to move the fence to 1 foot inside our clearly delineated border so that there could be no suggestion that we were encroaching. Still that wasn't sufficient, and after another few hours of being monitored and berated at every move, the gaffer told her to 'eff off' in no uncertain terms.
The sh!tstorm when I got home was unbelievable, and was so outlandish that I found it funny. This was clearly not the reaction that she was expecting.
Ultimately this was the last piece of work that we did at the house and, as always intended, we put this on the market shortly thereafter and moved away.
Remarkably we continued to receive Christmas cards from her lovely husband until he died 10 or so years later, for what must have been a blessed relief! I bet she was incandescent when she saw our cards addressed solely to him!
Looking forward to chapter two.