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skudupnorth

Cycling Skoda lover
After 11 years of bliss with our first VW Touran we finally had to let it go after it failed it’s MOT badly ( mainly electrical)
One week later and we are now the proud owners of a newer Touran and still car finance dept free.
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Drago

Legendary Member
Sweet. A. ate of mine had one of those, abused it badly, and it still went to interstellar mileage. It's just a shame the rest of the range isn't so durable.

And you're tight, finance, PCP etc is a mug's game.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
I call Touran’s “ Octavia high tops” 😆😆

Having ridden with @skudupnorth this doesn't surprise me.

His liking for Skodas is well known among his mates, to the extent that he has the real life nickname of Skud or Skudders.

He is a bit of a beast on a bike, so our ride was another occasion when I was glad of having my ebike to enable me to keep pace.

Apart from the climbs on his fixed, which seemed to involve attacking every hill like a whirling Dervish.
 

gavroche

Getting old but not past it
Location
North Wales
And you're tight, finance, PCP etc is a mug's game.
On the other hand, if there wasn't the availibilty of finance, the car industry and many other industries would come to an end, with many jobs lost.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
And that will ultimately be a good thing. Too much of our economy is concentrated in areas that are harmful to society, harmful to the environment, and unsustainable over the long term. The sooner we cease reliance on industries that will ultimately fail or massivelyy shrink for those reasons, the less painful it will be for the economy.

Add to that the finance industry being of a service mature, neitjer making anything tangible or providing a physical service, and while it makes money now, today, it is fickle and it disproportionately affects the economy at times of financial stress, such as during the last depression. Again, a move away from that is no bad thing at all. I presume you slept through the last depression and the stock market crash caused by too much of the economy relying on credit and the financial system as we know it starting to collapse as a result?

It's a house of cards, and we either deal with it now while it's convenient to do so, or wait until it's failure becomes a serious crisis. We'll inevitably do the latter.
 
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Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
A local Toyota dealer to me use to send any of his old p/ex's to Africa once a month as he claimed they made more profit including shipping then going to auction in the UK
They impose quite a high import tax for old cars here, the older the higher the tax. New cars pay very little, maybe to stop it being a dumping ground?
Toyotas are highly regarded here.
 

gavroche

Getting old but not past it
Location
North Wales
And that will ultimately be a good thing. Too much of our economy is concentrated in areas that are harmful to society, harmful to the environment, and unsustainable over the long term. The sooner we cease reliance on industries that will ultimately fail or massively shrink for those reasons, the less painful it will be for the economy.

Add to that the finance industry being of a service mature, neitjer making anything tangible or providing a physical service, and while it makes money now, today, it is fickle and it disproportionately affects the economy at times of financial stress, such as during the last depression. Again, a move away from that is no bad thing at all. I presume you slept through the last depression and the stock market crash caused by too much of the economy relying on credit and the financial system as we know it starting to collapse as a result?

It's a house of cards, and we either deal with it now while it's convenient to do so, or wait until it's failure becomes a serious crisis. We'll inevitably do the latter.
Your idea is commendable but completely out of touch with the society we live in. Capitalism is all about money ruling and being king. Profit is the god of capitalists. Everything has to make a profit to grease the palms of capitalism. It cannot survive without selling goods and services at a profit. We all know that communism doesn't work so what is left? Socialism could only work if it wasn't associated with communism. I welcome your utopian idea but society is far from being ready for it, so what is the alternative? I can't answer that question as I don't know but I believe the capitalist system will collapse eventually when we have exhausted the earth's resources in the not too distant future.
 
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