Non cyclists need recalibrating

[rogerzilla]

There are many people, especially younger ones, who will only buy a new house as they can't face the work of clearing up someone else's mess or regrettable taste in decoration. New houses tend to be on edge-of-town car-dependent estates.

 

[Globalti]

Perhaps you do pay a little extra and yes, you also pay a small fee for the delivery but the advantage is that you don't walk around the store picking up 2 for 1 offers that you end up not eating and throwing away. There are also special offers every week and, more interestingly, the opportunity to test new products on the undertaking that you will write a review. I got a free bottle of Glenlivet Founder's Reserve this way, which was about £35 in the shops! Mrs Gti ticked the box on the order form in vain hope and we were amazed when it actually turned up.

 

[mjr]

I just did a search and found this plan showing 139 spaces, including 4 P&C (parent and child?) spaces, 10 disabled spaces, and 2 electric vehicle charging spaces. No mention of bike spaces!

PS The charging spaces are in a different place to where they are shown on that plan. Maybe there is a more recent document than that one?

Maybe. The link's expired so I can't view it, but I did take the planning reference 15/01029 from the address and found that condition 19 is the one requiring cycle parking:
"19. Prior to the first use of the development details of cycle facilities for staff and customers of the development shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. The details shall include;
o Customer cycle parking close to the store entrance where it is overlooked;
o Secure staff parking designed as long stay provision; and
o one stand per 10 employees plus 1 stand per 200 sq m GFA.
The cycle facilities so approved shall be installed prior to the first use of the development and shall be retained thereafter"

So if there's no cycle parking, the store should not open!

The search results for 15/01029 also show that Lidl applied for sign off (aka discharge) of condition 19 earlier this year under reference 15/01029/DISC5 and were reminded that they had not yet complied.

As an aside, it sounds like the local council has no cycle parking standards because that condition looks very weak and might allow even wheelbender slots or other insecure junk if the officer reviewing hates bikes.

 

[mjr]

Perhaps you do pay a little extra and yes, you also pay a small fee for the delivery but the advantage is that you don't walk around the store picking up 2 for 1 offers that you end up not eating and throwing away. There are also special offers every week and, more interestingly, the opportunity to test new products on the undertaking that you will write a review. I got a free bottle of Glenlivet Founder's Reserve this way, which was about £35 in the shops! Mrs Gti ticked the box on the order form in vain hope and we were amazed when it actually turned up.

I don't walk around the store picking up 2 for 1 offers that I end up not eating and throwing away. I go with a list of what I want to buy (actually an app these days) and I'm not that gullible.

There are fewer special offers online than in store and I've never been offered a free review product or had such a box on the order form. I hope any such paid-in-kind reviews are clearly labelled on the site, else that seems like another sort of scamming customers.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

Housing estates aren't built for people, they're built to sell houses. The land is bought with the gamble that someone will want to live there. That's what marketing people are for.

 

[Heltor Chasca]

In my village ‘cars’ drive kids to school 800m down the road. 800m! 800 blinkin’ metres.

We go to a school elsewhere. 8km return on the bike. 10 minutes quicker than by car. The bike. 10 blinkin’ minutes.

 

[ColinJ]

I think I will go straight to the council with this! But in the meantime ...

 

[confusedcyclist]

We may not need to wait much longer before our energy slave dependent society get's a collective wake up call.

http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/energy-slaves/#page-1

 

[PK99]

Lazy people will always find an excuse and if children see their parents driving everywhere they'll follow the same lead..

I know a woman who arrives at school 1/2 an hour early so she can get the space closest to the gates (less walking..).

My two have always walked in, we had a discussion why the woman over the road spent 15mins deicing her car to drop her kid off at school and drive back again and none of us could work it out!.

Sometimes the simplest solution is true, bone idleness more.often than not.

I used to wonder that about my next door neighbour. School was only 10 mins walk away. When she had her first hip replacement at <50, i realised the reason and that my judgemental attitude had been wrong.

 

[Drago]

I used to wonder that about my next door neighbour. School was only 10 mins walk away. When she had her first hip replacement at <50, i realised the reason and that my judgemental attitude had been wrong.

Virtually all my neighbours with school age children must also have had hip replacements then.

But even then, I'm not sure it's an excuse. Hulk Hogan has had a hip replacement and seems to get by OK.

 

[Alan O]

Perhaps you do pay a little extra and yes, you also pay a small fee for the delivery but the advantage is that you don't walk around the store picking up 2 for 1 offers that you end up not eating and throwing away.

I have a near fanatical revulsion for the wasting of food, and I aim to never throw food away - to a large extent it's because of the time I've spent in parts of the world where many people genuinely don't have enough to eat.

I was horrified this week to throw away some sausages, which were flavoured with hot chili. Now, I like chilies and very hot spicy food in general, but these were horrible - no chili flavour in the sausages, just a painful burn at the back of the throat after eating. I still feel guilty over the waste.

Before I go shopping (we have a new Aldi a mile away on a fairly pleasant walking route, and I go there 3 or 4 times a week), I eat first. Going shopping when I'm hungry leads me to buy more food than I usually would - and even if I later regret a purchase, I still eat it because of my hatred of waste.

And whenever there are attractive twofers, I'll only buy them if they have reasonable longevity or can be frozen.

But I guess this isn't much about cycling, so... next time I visit Aldi I'll check to see if there are any cycle racks.

 

[classic33]

Maybe. The link's expired so I can't view it, but I did take the planning reference 15/01029 from the address and found that condition 19 is the one requiring cycle parking:
"19. Prior to the first use of the development details of cycle facilities for staff and customers of the development shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the local planning authority. The details shall include;
o Customer cycle parking close to the store entrance where it is overlooked;
o Secure staff parking designed as long stay provision; and
o one stand per 10 employees plus 1 stand per 200 sq m GFA.
The cycle facilities so approved shall be installed prior to the first use of the development and shall be retained thereafter"

So if there's no cycle parking, the store should not open!

The search results for 15/01029 also show that Lidl applied for sign off (aka discharge) of condition 19 earlier this year under reference 15/01029/DISC5 and were reminded that they had not yet complied.

As an aside, it sounds like the local council has no cycle parking standards because that condition looks very weak and might allow even wheelbender slots or other insecure junk if the officer reviewing hates bikes.

The department responsible for signing off the work has been reminded, earlier this year, that it wasn't in place.

 

[mjr]

The department responsible for signing off the work has been reminded, earlier this year, that it wasn't in place.

Store shouldn't be open then. Is the local press interested in council incompetence?

 

[Will Spin]

I think I will go straight to the council with this! But in the meantime ...

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This could of course be used as an argument against the need for cycle parking as the racks in the picture are empty!

 

[Drago]

No wonder they're empty - tucked away out of sight of the entrance, limited passing foot traffic and hence limited natural surveillance, no obvious CCTV coverage (and if their is I doubt it's being live monitored). Not the worst I've seen by a long chalk, but still little more than an afterthought.