Non-helmet helmet? Or something like that.

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markemark

Veteran
My helmet has saved my life on 3 falls over the years. Quite how it’s managed it in the loft where it’s been the last 15 years I’m not sure but it definitely has. Had it not been there in the loft I don’t think I’d be here writing this now.
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
You're more likely to die taking a stroll than riding a bike and I don't wrap up in PPE for that.

Instead I rely on attributes designed to keep me out of trouble in the first instance - a conscientious approach to riding, proper obs and awareness, years of delivering rider training.

Everyone else dan do as they please.

I totally agree with you. But as I found out to my cost, more than once. You have no control over other peoples actions. You can be aware and as careful as you want. But they will still get you and that is when a helmet comes in handy.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I totally agree with you. But as I found out to my cost, more than once. You have no control over other peoples actions. You can be aware and as careful as you want. But they will still get you and that is when a helmet comes in handy.
Except that there is some* evidence that other people take less care near helmet users, so while the helmet may offer some impact protection to a small part of the body, it may well be contributing to the incident that causes impact... and that impact could of course be to a part of the body that the helmet doesn't protect and also catastrophic. But it could explain why the verified undeniable impact protection doesn't translate to a reduction in casualty rates.

* - the evidence is weak but so is most evidence when trying to study changes in real-world situations with lots of uncontrollable variables. One of the early studies was University of Bath. "Wearing A Helmet Puts Cyclists At Risk, Suggests Research." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 13 September 2006. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060911102200.htm - and looking up what papers cite that should find later studies.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

Happy_Days

Well-Known Member
other obviously folding helmet
Although Virginia Tech likely hasn’t tested it yet, Newlane’s new folding helmet has MIPS.

https://bikebiz.com/newlane-x-mips-first-ever-integrated-into-a-folding-helmet/amp/

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Drago

Legendary Member
I totally agree with you. But as I found out to my cost, more than once. You have no control over other peoples actions. You can be aware and as careful as you want. But they will still get you and that is when a helmet comes in handy.

Helmets are not designed to provide any protection in a vehicular impact and have not been even remotely proven to do so, so the old "its not you, its the other bugger" argument falls flat.
 

CentralCommuter

Über Member
I genuinely can’t believe that this has become a helmet/no helmet debate, and not one person has said anything about the OP deceiving his wife!!!!!

If she feels strongly about it then have a bit of respect (after all, she feels this way because she loves you) and wear the helmet. Or else don’t, but tell her you are not wearing it.

Lying is never the answer!
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I genuinely can’t believe that this has become a helmet/no helmet debate, and not one person has said anything about the OP deceiving his wife!!!!!
I think Ming sort of implied it, gently, in the first reply, but then the helmeteers arrived.
If she feels strongly about it then have a bit of respect (after all, she feels this way because she loves you) and wear the helmet. Or else don’t, but tell her you are not wearing it.
Can't he have a bit of respect and not use one, then, in your world? She may feel strongly about it, but that wouldn't make her view correct. The above paragraph is just as bad as most other emotional blackmail into helmet use.
 

Emanresu

I asked AI to show the 'real' me.
And upthread there was a reference to people driving 'battle cruisers'. I believe the modern parlance is w**kertanker.
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
Helmets are not designed to provide any protection in a vehicular impact and have not been even remotely proven to do so, so the old "its not you, its the other bugger" argument falls flat.

I was clipped by a car and slid a good way down the road. All the peak and side of the helmet was ground away by the road. That would have been my forehead and head.

Head on full impact smashes. I agree with you. But they do not meed to smash in to you to bring you off.
 
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