Official Close Pass Licencing response

[tdr1nka]

Either that or people ain't all that bothered.

 

[col]

Either that or people ain't all that bothered.

They are or they wouldnt keep instigating debate

 

[Bollo]

but then i didnt expect anything else from you and your club

Incredible

If Origamist had a club, it would have a very tough entrance exam.

 

[col]

If Origamist had a club, it would have a very tough entrance exam.

Not really, think of a safe and logical topic then go the opposite way and blame everyone else for everything

 

[Lurker]

Oh i see. Because I would put a foot on a crossing to show my intentions, you say im being a hypocrit.
The point is they expect and understand when you cross a zebra crossing, they dont expect or understand ignorant and unnecessary choreography of a cyclist in the middle of a road, but then i didnt expect anything else from you and your club

Incredible

I'd venture to suggest that the reason that motorists expect and understand that someone might wish to cross a road at a zebra crossing is because most motorists are pedestrians some of the time.

Unfortunately most motorists are not cyclists, and as a result they don't expect or understand assertive road positioning from a cyclist. This reflects their ignorance rather than that of the cyclist.

 

[Origamist]

Oh i see. Because I would put a foot on a crossing to show my intentions, you say im being a hypocrit.

No. I am accusing you of being a hypocrit because you constantly criticise people for delaying motorists, or for annoying them, or for taking risks - all of which you happily do when you step out in front of moving traffic on a zebra crossing! I have been beeped, sworn at, etc many times for asserting my right to cross the road. Quite a lot of motorists and cyclists don't give two hoots for pedestrians.

Can you not see the glaring inconsistency in your position, Col?

 

[tdr1nka]

They are or they wouldnt keep instigating debate

Or writing Haiku, to which you were referring and which I replied to.

 

[col]

I'd venture to suggest that the reason that motorists expect and understand that someone might wish to cross a road at a zebra crossing is because most motorists are pedestrians some of the time.

Unfortunately most motorists are not cyclists, and as a result they don't expect or understand assertive road positioning from a cyclist. This reflects their ignorance rather than that of the cyclist.

In most cases i would agree, but i dont agree when a cyclist forces a situation just to prove a point or get a vid. They are more dangerous than a motorist who doesnt cycle, then come out with a load of tosh to try and excuse their reasons as to why they were so pig headed or stupid.
These menaces of the road dont want to know that a lot of motorists dont understand their actions, but they do it anyway then berate the poor sucker for dangerous driving when it neednt have happened.Safety in mind??? what a load of twaddle, there are other reasons on their minds, and its definitely not for the good of all us cyclists.

 

[Crackle]

If Origamist had a club, it would have a very tough entrance exam.

In fact he wouldn't get enough members and he'd have to fold.

 

[col]

No. I am accusing you of being a hypocrit because you constantly criticise people for delaying motorists, or for annoying them, or for taking risks - all of which you happily do when you step out in front of moving traffic on a zebra crossing! I have been beeped, sworn at, etc many times for asserting my right to cross the road. Quite a lot of mototists and cyclists don't give two hoots for pedestrians.

Can you not see the glaring inconsistency in your position, Col?

You really must be a bit dim if you think i step out in front of moving traffic
Can you not see the holes in your so well thought out have a go at me

 

[col]

Or writing Haiku, to which you were referring and which I replied to.

Your point?

 

[tdr1nka]

What needn't have happened was the taxi's overtake, irrespective of Mag's riding.
This has been concurred time and again on this thread.
One could say that your one man crusade against Mag is just as unnecessary and narrow minded as you feel Mag's videos.

 

[col]

No. I am accusing you of being a hypocrit because you constantly criticise people for delaying motorists, or for annoying them, or for taking risks - all of which you happily do when you step out in front of moving traffic on a zebra crossing! I have been beeped, sworn at, etc many times for asserting my right to cross the road. Quite a lot of motorists and cyclists don't give two hoots for pedestrians.

Can you not see the glaring inconsistency in your position, Col?

The only ones i criticise are the unneccesary menaces. And what gives you the impression that i take risks at crossings? Or are you just assuming and guessing again?

 

[col]

What needn't have happened was the taxi's overtake, irrespective of Mag's riding.
This has been concurred time and again on this thread.
One could say that your one man crusade against Mag is just as unnecessary and narrow minded as you feel Mag's videos.

Iv given my opinion, he didnt like it and started attacking in his childish and underhand way to which I responded and he hates that. As a friend of his you call me narrow minded and say i have a crusade, if i think someone is unsafe Ill say so, or is that not allowed ?

 

[Origamist]

You really must be a bit dim if you think i step out in front of moving traffic
Can you not see the holes in your so well thought out have a go at me

Col you wrote:

You only need to take one step onto it, you dont have to carry on walking, and one step shows them what you want to do, which most seem to stop for.

I assume you are referring to a moving vehicle that is approaching the crossing?

Please feel free to keep wriggling though...