Official Close Pass Licencing response

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col

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magnatom said:
Interesting. I get an e-mail suggesting that the guy didn't give a toss, by accident. Boss comes back, waits a few days and then sends an e-mail telling me that the guy is sorry. Mmm. I wonder.

My gut tells me that some truths are being stretched here. What I would love to know is, since the last e-mail, have they really had another chat with the driver, invited him in, found a convenient date and told him he was in the wrong, and suddenly he has come over contrite, or...... have they waited a little bit and wrote to me and changed the approach of the letter such that it will get me off their back.

I'm just hypothesising of course, but the sudden change in attitude of the driver over a few days just seems a little, contrived. I hope I am wrong of course, perhaps I am.

Hey, ho. Despite what I may think, I reckon the driver will at least think twice before doing it again, which is the result I am looking for. Hopefully one less driver who will just ignore cyclists.

I can understand those who say the police should have been my first port of call. However, despite popular belief I am not out to put people out of a job. A bollicking/dress down, where the driver is informed of the issues with their driving is enough for me, certainly in this case. I just have a sneaky suspicion that it didn't quite happen like that.

What does surprise me though is that taxi licence conditions have no clause in them that the driver should drive with due care and attention for other road users etc. Hmmm. Something that needs to be addressed perhaps?



This is all covered in the highway code as you said earlier, so it isnt anything to do with you, as you said. He has passed his driving test like anyone else.

What needs to be taken into account when approaching the police is that they need to take all reasons into account to warrant taking the time to investigate a cyclists complaint. Like how serious was the incident, could the cyclist have avoided , if so why not? Pedance and attitude ect ect. So even the police can see through some reports as a cyclist being awkward or instigating the incident in a way to make it more serious than it need be.

So instead of saying the police are not interested or not doing their job properly, make sure you heve a genuine and unchoreagraphed incident in the first place, they are not as gullible as you think you know.:smile:
 
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This is all covered in the highway code as you said earlier, so it isnt anything to do with you, as you said. He has passed his driving test like anyone else.

What needs to be taken into account when approaching the police is that they need to take all reasons into account to warrant taking the time to investigate a cyclists complaint. Like how serious was the incident, could the cyclist have avoided , if so why not? Pedance and attitude ect ect. So even the police can see through some reports as a cyclist being awkward or instigating the incident in a way to make it more serious than it need be.

So instead of saying the police are not interested or not doing their job properly, make sure you heve a genuine and unchoreagraphed incident in the first place, they are not as gullible as you think you know.:smile:

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downfader

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col said:
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This is all covered in the highway code as you said earlier, so it isnt anything to do with you, as you said. He has passed his driving test like anyone else.

What needs to be taken into account when approaching the police is that they need to take all reasons into account to warrant taking the time to investigate a cyclists complaint. Like how serious was the incident, could the cyclist have avoided , if so why not? Pedance and attitude ect ect. So even the police can see through some reports as a cyclist being awkward or instigating the incident in a way to make it more serious than it need be.

So instead of saying the police are not interested or not doing their job properly, make sure you heve a genuine and unchoreagraphed incident in the first place, they are not as gullible as you think you know.:smile:

You know if its THAT easy to choreograph an incident then why dont you go out there and prove it? I'm getting a little sick of reading your posts where you seem to go out of your way to discredit other people. The road situation was clearly laid out and you are adding credence to the minority of motorists viewpoint that we are a menace.

The cyclist was infront - it is the same situation with overtaking a car - you dont barge through simply because you want to go faster or are feeling impatient with the guy in front's progress. Your attitude says that we should be subserviant to bigger vehicles and their drivers. Its not a race out there, we;re not fighting for pole position.
 

col

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downfader said:
You know if its THAT easy to choreograph an incident then why dont you go out there and prove it? I'm getting a little sick of reading your posts where you seem to go out of your way to discredit other people. The road situation was clearly laid out and you are adding credence to the minority of motorists viewpoint that we are a menace.

The cyclist was infront - it is the same situation with overtaking a car - you dont barge through simply because you want to go faster or are feeling impatient with the guy in front's progress. Your attitude says that we should be subserviant to bigger vehicles and their drivers. Its not a race out there, we;re not fighting for pole position.



Im afraid it seems some are.
Again it seems some do.
Your sick? How do you think others feel that we will get tarred with the same brush? And possibly even given a harder time on the roads than needs be?
 

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it would be very easy for him to choreograph this so as to get only minor injuries. All he would need is eyes in the back of his head so he could see the taxi approaching, exactly how fast it was going and it's exact position on the road. He would then also need psychic powers in order to know exactly what the taxidriver was going to do and when. Then all he would need to do would be to calculate the necessary angle of impact. Easy. :smile:

Coincidently, I'd only just found the link to the google thread and was just about to reply here about the google OP hinting about the situation being contrived by the cyclist, when I came back here and read... spooky
 
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col said:
Im afraid it seems some are.
Again it seems some do.
Your sick? How do you think others feel that we will get tarred with the same brush? And possibly even given a harder time on the roads than needs be?
Go on col, be a man. If you think I am a menace, come on out and say it. You've pussyfooted around this issue for long enough. Simple question. Do you think I am a menace on the roads or not? Yes or no?
 

col

Legendary Member
magnatom said:
Go on col, be a man. If you think I am a menace, come on out and say it. You've pussyfooted around this issue for long enough. Simple question. Do you think I am a menace on the roads or not? Yes or no?


In some of your incidents where we have had it out before, yes i do. Im not for one second thinking you will admit this, but making an incident worse than it needs to be is in my book a menace.
 

Lurker

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col said:
In some of your incidents where we have had it out before, yes i do. Im not for one second thinking you will admit this, but making an incident worse than it needs to be is in my book a menace.

'Menace' defined:

menace
noun

1. a perceived threat or danger
2. the act of threatening
3. a dangerous person

verb to menace (transitive or intransitive)

1. to make threats (against someone); to intimidate
2. to endanger someone or something; to imperil or jeopardize

http://www.allwords.com/word-menace.html
 
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col said:
In some of your incidents where we have had it out before, yes i do. Im not for one second thinking you will admit this, but making an incident worse than it needs to be is in my book a menace.

Your post is a perfect example of a troll post. You answer the question, and feel the need to follow it up with a jibe about the fact that I will not admit something that you think I am, but which I obviously do not think I am. Thereby attempting to wind me up by asking me to admit something that you know I never would. Trolling, pure and simple. Good luck with that.

I think :smile: will just about sum up my response to any of your posts in the future quite nicely.
 
Don't send the video!

Make the complaint with details of the incident.... then await the reply.

Then when you get the compulsory pack of evasive lies rely with the video and ask how the drivers statement correlates with the evidence.

Then question whether with the combination of bad driving and the evidence thatthe driver has lied about the incident raises the question as to whether they are "a fit and proper person" to hold a licence
 

col

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magnatom said:
Your post is a perfect example of a troll post. You answer the question, and feel the need to follow it up with a jibe about the fact that I will not admit something that you think I am, but which I obviously do not think I am. Thereby attempting to wind me up by asking me to admit something that you know I never would. Trolling, pure and simple. Good luck with that.

I think :thumbsup: will just about sum up my response to any of your posts in the future quite nicely.


Your at it again arnt you:laugh: I answered a question you asked and you monopolise on it. About you not admitting to what i suspect has been said before so for you to claim troll again is a bit silly really, I answered what i believe, if you want to play at name calling because of it,thats your usual way it seems, then dont ask a question you might not like the answer too, or is that trolling in itself when you name call as you didnt get an answer you hoped for?
This does seem to show you in a childish light i think, your rolling eyes summing up nicely as an answer, just because you dont like it.
Grow up or dont ask a question.
 
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col said:
Your at it again arnt you:laugh: I answered a question you asked and you monopolise on it. About you not admitting to what i suspect has been said before so for you to claim troll again is a bit silly really, I answered what i believe, if you want to play at name calling because of it,thats your usual way it seems, then dont ask a question you might not like the answer too, or is that trolling in itself when you name call as you didnt get an answer you hoped for?
This does seem to show you in a childish light i think, your rolling eyes summing up nicely as an answer, just because you dont like it.
Grow up or dont ask a question.

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