Official Closest pass video

[Sh4rkyBloke]

The occurence of people riding without lights and RLJing far exceeds people hitting the side of a car because they have had a close overtake.

So it's okay to join them as the motons will already be angry with cyclists about that... another one will make no difference?? Interesting 'logic'.

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Back to the OP's vid though...

I have to say that it *does* look like a nice wide road coming from the roundabout, so maybe a slightly less in-your-face position may have been fine.... but, I don't know the area and that it's difficult to say what I *would* have done if I'd been there myself just from a video. Mags rides this road regularly and knows the layout and the conditions. If he feels it is fine to ride strong primary all the way from the roundabout then I accept this.

If the road is such a wide road though, why didn't the driver overtake earlier?

If he couldn't, due to having to accelerate up to speed, then Mags clearly didn't slow him down so his positioning is irrelevant.

As has been said before, the driver is clearly a c*ck who should not be behind the wheel of any vehicle on the road.

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Not really a 4.5yr could work it out.

RLJing and riding without lights is a frequent occurence thereofre has become ''accepted'' by many although not condoned.

However smacking the side of a vehicle just because of a close overtake would still be viewed as aggressive behaviour and out of line.

Aaaah, okay... so if we all hit cars it becomes more acceptable... smashing, at least I know now.

 

[magnatom]

However smacking the side of a vehicle just because of a close overtake would still be viewed as aggressive behaviour and out of line.

....and you speak for...?

 

[mr_hippo]

Oh bejeezus! It's happened. I've attracted all the forum trolls at once! (ok a few are missing but they'll be here shortly!)

For the record, Lee, col and Mr Hippo, on every single occasion that they have ever posted on one of my threads have told me that I have done this wrong, done that wrong, etc. That is the only time that they ever post on my threads. I have never once had a comment like, good work Mag, or nice one mag or good point mag. Now I know not everyone agrees with me. Fair enough, but most reasoned people at least accept some of my arguments, agree that there are reasons for me doing this and that etc. However, there are those that only ever seem to be negative.

Were you or are you starved of affection/attention? You want posters to say “Mag, or nice one mag or good point mag” – sorry but I can’t. You are an example of how not to cycle. Most of us who cycle have been in close overtakes; we may mutter a bit but then we forget it. So why can’t you? You put yourself in situations and then have the gall to blame others.

As for full palm on window, are you blind Mr Hippo. Look at the picture which maz posted. It is from the frame before the picture I show at the end of my video. You can just make out the shadow of my hand on the car window. Now look at the picture in my video. The shadow has disappeared. Why, because my hand is on the window. Also why do you think the car stopped? Did it maybe have something to do with my hand hitting his window perhaps?

Stop your video at 59 seconds (The car is stopped), your wrist is slightly bent but there is no way in that position that you could touch the window with your full palm. From the poison of your arm when you touched the car, for your palm to be in contact with the window then your wrist would have to bent almost double and all fingers would be visible. Can you show me where your wrist is bent back?
Stop the video at 1:27; now compare the length of your fingers at 59 seconds where your wrist is bent

As for the video mentioned in post 139, this shows me your attitude. "There's a van behimd me, parked cars to my left and oncoming traffix - I'm not going to ease off and let the van driver pass. This will make great footage on youtube!"

 

[Eat MY Dust]

Hi Mags (hope you had a nice Christmas)

I can't be bothered reading all the pish, but it was indeed a very close overtake. I'd like to say that road postioning shouldn't really be an issue here, you were in front, that's all that matters. It would appear that there are a few people on here that believe the myth that if you are faster than the thing in front of you, then you have right of way!

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Mr Hippo, you are a tw@t.

Carry on.

 

[Bollo]

From the poison of your arm...

Wow! He can shoot poison out of his arm like some snake/spider hybrid mutant. You been standing to close to the magnets again, Maggers?

 

[magnatom]

Were you or are you starved of affection/attention? You want posters to say “Mag, or nice one mag or good point mag” – sorry but I can’t. You are an example of how not to cycle. Most of us who cycle have been in close overtakes; we may mutter a bit but then we forget it. So why can’t you? You put yourself in situations and then have the gall to blame others.

LOL!

Stop your video at 59 seconds (The car is stopped), your wrist is slightly bent but there is no way in that position that you could touch the window with your full palm. From the poison of your arm when you touched the car, for your palm to be in contact with the window then your wrist would have to bent almost double and all fingers would be visible. Can you show me where your wrist is bent back?
Stop the video at 1:27; now compare the length of your fingers at 59 seconds where your wrist is bent

Turn up the volume on your computer. Go on. Have a listen. I just did, and you can actually hear the dull thud as my hand hits the window. Go on.

I look forward to you explanation of what the dull thud was. Perhaps the car just happened to run over an alien from outer space just as it was trying to make contact with the human race!

As for the video mentioned in post 139, this shows me your attitude. "There's a van behimd me, parked cars to my left and oncoming traffix - I'm not going to ease off and let the van driver pass. This will make great footage on youtube!"

And where do I say any of this? I did ease off, moved over and let the van pass. Which planet are you on Mr Hippo? Perhaps the little aliens planet!

 

[johnnyh]

I am not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of the cyclist, but it is clearly a dangerous piece of driving by the private hire vehicle, and surely the duty of care from the driver to other road users was ignored.

as for hitting the car... I'd have to say I think that is a little daft since the driver was clearly aggressive to start with and putting yourself in further danger isnt clever.

I do except in the heat of the moment we all react though.

 

[BentMikey]

LOL at Mr Hippo, who if I recall correctly, edited out a bit of his video showing him about to undertake a big coach.

 

[BentMikey]

I think Lee is right about hitting a car - touch their vehicle, and it almost always brings out the worst in people. It seems to be considered along the lines of assault. How many times have we seen posts about massive road rage after a cyclist touched someone's vehicle?

I know it's wrong, and I try really hard not to do it. Occasionally I fail, mind.

p.s. Lee, have you ever considered not being so confrontational? It takes away most of the value of your posts, and IMO it's clearly why so many on here have no respect for you. (And yes, I'm sure I'm not one to be talking, LOL!).

 

[magnatom]

I am not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of the cyclist, but it is clearly a dangerous piece of driving by the private hire vehicle, and surely the duty of care from the driver to other road users was ignored.

as for hitting the car... I'd have to say I think that is a little daft since the driver was clearly aggressive to start with and putting yourself in further danger isnt clever.

I do except in the heat of the moment we all react though.

Of course it was daft, but it was purely a reaction to something coming towards you, i.e. a push it away response. Of course I need to work at my upper body strength to be able to push cars away!

 

[johnnyh]

get pumping them weights fella

 

[shunter]

Anyone with a bit of common sense, there was no need for you to hit the car. Anyone can see that.

Common sense would tell you that the car should have not been close enough for Mag to be able to touch it. Common sense would also tell you that anyones natural instinct to something getting far too close is to push it away.

As for all the prim cycling techniques being bandied about - he is entitled to safeguard his life on the road and then worry about pretty cycling. The driver was completely in the wrong as he did not have the space to safely pass. I reckon he only stopped anyway because he thought he had hit Mag. The car driver should have allowed space for Mag in case he had to swerve to avoid a pothole or object.

The main point is that Mag was looking forward and changing his position in response to potential dangers that he could forsee ie looking ahead. Taking up the primary or secondary position should have be seen as an alert to the driver behind that the cyclist in front needed more space due to a change in the road but to be honest if he had not already seen that then he had no regard for the cyclist and certainly wasn't looking ahead.

During my advanced bike test I moved slightly over to the left to let a speeding motorist pass safely and without hindrance. My examiner - a senior class 1 police motorcyclist - told me off saying I was paying taxes to be on the road as well and I was totally in the right to maintain a safe position of my own. Go figure.