Other two wheelers (with engines)

[asterix]

Round here ther are a surprising numer of m/cyclists. and I often exchange a wave. I used to love riding my 650 on the N. York Moors roads. The sensation of effortlessly climbing Rosedale Chimney for example! But i sold it a few years ago as I didn't like the aggro in traffic. The last straw was a 4x4 which tried to push past when I was waiting at the lights.

 

[jonny jeez]

There's a lot of long straight flat stretches of road hereabouts that seem to be an invitation for a lot of motorbikers to go at absolutely mental speeds. I've even seen them doing wheelies as well as the usual mad overtakes. Apart from anything else why can't these tw*ts have their mid-life crises quietly?!

They're not Motorcyclists, they're Twats...just like you say.

Put them in a car on on a pushbike and they'll let the side down just as badly with their stupid antics. Dont let twats coulour your perception of the rest. If you do then surely we are all red light jumping, pavement riding, pedestrian harrasing lycra louts?

 

[jonny jeez]

Round here ther are a surprising numer of m/cyclists. and I often exchange a wave. I used to love riding my 650 on the N. York Moors roads. The sensation of effortlessly climbing Rosedale Chimney for example! But i sold it a few years ago as I didn't like the aggro in traffic. The last straw was a 4x4 which tried to push past when I was waiting at the lights.

I recently sold My Triumph Sprint (1050cc) sports tourer....a beautiful bike but it attracted so much aggro and risk from other roders trying to compete, cars trying to compete, friends trying to compete and even me trying to compete...that I got rid (never saw that coming!).

 

[bmakabayan]

The only problem motorised two wheelers I meet are the one's who have passed a CBT and then let loose on the public highway not knowing how to ride a motorbike properly.

yes, true enough... but not all... no offense meant... lol

 

[captain nemo1701]

Dear Johhny Jeez,

I apologise if I came across as tarring every biker with the same brush, but it was not my intention. As in my previous post, I have observed bikers stopping before the ASL, even when it's empty.

My primary concern about motorbikes in the ASL can be illustrated by watching the scooter rider in this video;

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I have had this experience with bigger motorbikes, especially on my commute to work in Bristol which goes past a certain well-known large motorbike showroom (Bristol cyclists will know where I mean). Maybe the vicinity of the showroom skews my experience in the ASL due to the increase in the number of motorbikes in the locality.

However, I'd like people in london who read this thread to do a little experiment. On your commute, just stop for 5 mins at an ASL near you. Observe how many motorbikes stop before it on red or just enter into it. I think you'll all be surprised at how many motorbikes fail to stop and it seems to be a cross-section of those on PTW's ranging from scooters to the big machines. I don't think it's a hardcore of people, just general ignorance of the Highway Code. It is also not tarring alw-abiding bikers, just simple observation of what is happening in reality.

There was a few years back an experiment run by the Dept of Transport which looked at the possibility of allowing PTW's into the ASL at some junctions but I believe it concluded that it wasn't a good idea due to the size of some motorbikes.

I don't think PTW's should be allowed into the ASL for the very simple reason is that it encourages others (rather like pavement parking by drivers) and the last thing that cycling needs is the ASL's to be blocked by motorbikes. This is especially important in London where cycling seems to be booming at present.

Finally, the original post did ask for people's experiences with PTW's. Some, but not all, of mine just happen to be a bit negative.

 

[Asprilla]

When they observe the rules then I have no problem with motorcyclists, unlike the two nobbers on hairdryers who charged up the bus lane though Barnes this morning.. However, my biggest bugbear is the ASL. It's not for motorcyclists and I don't care how they try to justify their usage; it's as bad as RLJers attempting to justify their own selfishness.

You either ride within the rules or you don't. Personally I cycle to keep fit, so the last thing I want to do is find myself waiting at the lights sucking on high level exhaust.