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Over-complicated digital cameras - rant.

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Globalti, 21 Feb 2008.

  1. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    I have owned a Panasonic Lumix DMC FZ-7 for about a year and I quite like it. However it has functions and controls I will never use; I don't even know what the joystick button is for. Why can't somebody make a simple, robust outdoor use digital camera but spend the money on about 8mp, a fantastic lens and not much more than the few simple functions, which used to be sufficient when we used 35mm? My only real requirement is a wide zoom range because I take lots of landscapes and I like the compressing effect of a zoom. Oh, and a camera that's compact, lightweight and robust.
     
  2. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Staff Member

    i've got the fz-8 and it's a fine camera. there's a heart icon on the settings wheel that is the "just point and shoot" setting. too simple imho, and i didn't want to shoot everything at full res before i got a 2gb card from costco.
     
  3. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    Most cameras have an idiot setting.

    The issue with digital cameras is that the market is now saturated. And they've gone as far as they need to wrt sensor size. 6mp is all that you really need unless you're talking poster prints. So they have to fiddle with the gadget side of things to keep in the competition.

    They have to keep aiming at those gadget freaks and enthusiasts to persuade them that they need to update every couple of years. There's no long-term money in a simple, point-and-shoot digital camera, because once you've got one you'll never need to change it.
     
  4. andygates

    andygates New Member

    RR, you're saying "why doesn't someone make a camera just for me?"

    I could say the same with a different set of settings ("idiot snap" and a good macro, please) - and so could the rest of the market. Retooling for all those special simple cameras would be an arse and they'd cost just as much (they'd probably just cripple the extras in software...)

    Stop complaining. Or get a Holga.
     
  5. Nortones2

    Nortones2 Über Member

    I've recently got a DSLR: as I have a few (3) of manual Nikon fit lenses, I'm getting a lightmeter to use the thing in fully manual mode, and my sharp prime lenses. Apart from using the kit AF lens (which is plastic, and far too cumbersome) for snap-shots in auto/lazy mode:smile: My old Nikon F is much better ergonomically, so I'll just emulate that!
     
  6. pzycoman

    pzycoman New Member

    Location:
    Huffing a kitten
    Nortones2 I wish I have a plastic 170-500mm lens, those things are HEAVY after dragging them around for 7 hours at an airshow ;)
     
  7. The joystick on the DMC FZ 7 is for focussing it when you turn the auto focus off, and for setting the shutter speed and apeture in manual exposure mode. It's not very user friendly. I used mine like that, then bought a DSLR which is much easier to use. If you can afford it, and are into photography enough, I'd recommend a Nikon D200 or similar. Much more like an old style 35mm camera, believe it or not.
     
  8. Maz

    Maz Guru

    I've got a Canon Powershot. It's idiot-proof for me and gives nice pix. Has a whole bunch of rotary settings (dimlight/portraits etc) which I've never ever used.
     
  9. Most of the modes on digital cameras are unnecessary. That's why I like my Nikon. (Although most mid to high end DSLRs are the same.) You can use the DMC FZ 7 as a point and shoot in P mode.
     
  10. I have a Kodak V550, its got 20 or so quick settings (modes) and these can be customised even further to get the perfect picture. To tell the truth though, I just use it in default setting 'auto' :evil:
     
  11. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    Yeah, same here, sort of - I had a canon, loved it but it fell off a chair and broke. I got a little Samsung, which is OK, although there are a couple of annoyances - but I still only use the point and shoot - and I get some really nice pics - I've started to make a point of sometimes getting arty shots purely through point and shoot, so it's mostly in the composition.... I haven't a clue how to do anything else!
     
  12. Cycling Naturalist

    Cycling Naturalist Legendary Member

    Location:
    Llangollen
    I find all this very reassuring as I've got a Sony Cybershot which is crawling with features that I don't use. If they get switched on by accident, I have to get the manual out to find out how to switch them off.
     
  13. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Staff Member

    indeed, the composition is important above all, as it's the hardest thing to fix in photoshop. helps if it's in focus too.
     
  14. Haitch

    Haitch Flim Flormally

    Location:
    Netherlands
    Like Maz, I've got a Canon Powershot. Mine's a G7; it has the same processor as the bigger Canon DSLRs and nearly all the manual settings. The updated version, the G9, even has RAW. Excellent bit of kit that is compact in size.
     
  15. Fnaar

    Fnaar Smutmaster General

    Location:
    Thumberland
    Am I alone in presuming that it was the rant that was going to be complicated? :evil: