P.E.T.A Sue Photographer On Behalf of (Wrong) Monkey

[jefmcg]

Is this like evolution in reverse? Perhaps this monkey is what we will all be in a few years time.

<nerd>Evolution doesn't have a direction</nerd>

 

[Tin Pot]

Peter vs PETA

 

[Tin Pot]

Even if the macaque owns the copyright, the real question is why is Peta even doing this? Why are they expending vast amounts of money to beat up a single photographer? Is it really what their donors want? Will winning this set precedents that will help all the other animals who have had copyright works stolen from them.

Poultry farmers in the US are forced by the companies that they are raising the chickens for to keep them locked in a darkened barn for their whole lives. If they have open sided barns then they will no longer get any chickens to raise. If PETA could get the legal minds they are currently wasting on this to attempt to make those restrictions illegal, they could improve the lives of hundreds of millions of chickens. But no, let's just destroy a poor photographer.

I can hazard a guess that this is to establish some sort of precedent and recognition of an animal having rights. I can see why this would be a huge win for PETA. By establishing that in law they'll be able to leverage it to sue the chicken farmers and put meat eaters in prison for violating the rights of the animal.

 

[jefmcg]

I took electric hedge trimmers out on the weekend and trimmed the front hedge. No passerby accused me of cruelty. If I had used it similarly on a puppy I'd be in jail now.

No rational human thinks plants have similar rights to animals.

 

[Drago]

[QUOTE 4878333, member: 9609"]
But I tend to think they are very well meaning and their hearts are in the right place - I would far rather they were in charge of the planet instead of the money grabbing, greedy, warring, exploiting twats that are currently running things.[/QUOTE]

Then they could sue the entire human race on behalf of the wrong caterpillar.

 

[Bollo]

I saw a film about that sort of thing the other day.

That's what happens when the NRA campaign for second amendment rights for monkeys.

 

[jefmcg]

That's what happens when the NRA campaign for second amendment rights for monkeys.

That won't work. The Constitution is very speciesist*. "We, the people ...."

*And also, in it's original form, pretty racist and sexist too.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

That's what happens when the NRA campaign for second amendment rights for monkeys.

Wait until PETA campaign for bears to have the right to carry weapons and shoot back at hunters. The constitution might have to be changed to the right to bear arms and arm bears.

 

[classic33]

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http://www.npr.org/2012/10/26/160940869/recognizing-the-right-of-plants-to-evolve

 

[ufkacbln]

I can hazard a guess that this is to establish some sort of precedent and recognition of an animal having rights. I can see why this would be a huge win for PETA. By establishing that in law they'll be able to leverage it to sue the chicken farmers and put meat eaters in prison for violating the rights of the animal.

This was my thought, dismissing them as "Loonies" fails to recognise that a shrewd move like this could sneak through a whole range of "Rights"

For instance if this gives the offspring the same legal rights as a child in inheritance, then can that then be applied to something like a "home" or land?

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 4878672, member: 76"]Surely with rights come responsibilities.

If I did a big pooh on your car, I would be in some form of trouble, if I did it twice a day it would be ASBO time. Now if animals are getting rights, they will have to be held accountable for their actions too. Bird prisons, shark prisons,cat prisons, coming soon?[/QUOTE]
Kangaroo Courts!

 

[jefmcg]

[QUOTE 4878672, member: 76"]Surely with rights come responsibilities.

If I did a big pooh on your car, I would be in some form of trouble, if I did it twice a day it would be ASBO time. Now if animals are getting rights, they will have to be held accountable for their actions too. Bird prisons, shark prisons,cat prisons, coming soon?[/QUOTE]
This would not be a new thing

 

[jefmcg]

Horse trials.

Also sheep dog trials, and the Scopes monkey trial.

And of course, crow courts, showing the dangers of the jury system.

 

[Hugh Manatee]

That won't work. The Constitution is very speciesist*. "We, the people ...."

*And also, in it's original form, pretty racist and sexist too.

You are allowed to arm bears though.

 

[Tin Pot]

[QUOTE 4878893, member: 259"]Apart from all the funny stuff I feel pretty sorry for David Slater and his family.[/QUOTE]

A bit. But this is a photograph. He didn't discover penicillin.