pain in "unusual place" after long bike ride.......is this normal ?

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Dave7

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Dave, since you are only 68 and presumably your life is not all golf and cycling, what else do you do?
Are you right handed?
right handed.
play golf twice a week (sometimes three times)
Some walking/bird watching combined.
I have a weights bench and a few smaller weights just to keep in trim..............I will check what excercises are good for triceps.
 
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Have you tried taking some Neurofen?
Had to take pain killers during the ride (which I took along incase the sit bones flared up again). It seems to work during the ride but the next day it came back with a vengance. I am massaging it with a mix of oils at the moments
 
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Sounds like rotator cuff to me (from experience). If it's weak/strained, then it'll offload to other muscles, especially the deltoids (upper arm) hence pain there rather than in rotator cuff itself.
I have never heard of that until this post.
TBH when I first read that I thought someone was trying to make a joke !!
 
I have a weights bench and a few smaller weights just to keep in trim..............I will check what excercises are good for triceps.
Don't do any exercises until the pain goes away.

I'd suggest paying for a single session with a sports physio. Get the pain identified, and course of treatment worked out (which may end up sending you to your GP and - if you need it and are lucky - an NHS physio) and get some specific exercises for training the upper body once the injury has healed.
 

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Interested to see you mention the sit bones. My wife has an injury from spending too much of her life sitting on car seats, meaning that he sit bones are so painful that she hasn't actually sat down for two years; she eats standing, lies on her side and sits sideways on her hips. Two orthopedic and one neuro-specialist have been completely stumped by the problem and steroids and months of physiotherapy have made no difference. Bone scans have shown nothing. It's my belief that with advancing age and reduced blood circulation she has somehow affected the ischeal bones of her pelvis, which have given up on doing the job of supporting her weight when seated. Does any of this ring a bell with you?
 

liambauckham

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for a second i thought you was going to say your gooch. I am currently loaning a road bike, all measured up and tweaked to fit except the nose of the seat was a fraction too high. didnt notice until i did a 35 miler......
 
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I "think" (and hope) I have identified the cause.
After the bike fit and using the borrowed saddle........as it worked I orded a new, identical saddle and went to pick it up today.
I mentioned the problem and the guy recognised the problem as cycling related.
He talked me through my last ride and............
After doing the 68 miler and feeling good I decided (2 days later) to go for a 35 miler.
I felt so good that I decided to try something I have never done before.
Normally, on the hills, I drop down the gears and 'spin' but on that ride (feeling smug & full of energy) I decided to go to the 'drops' and "attack" the hills..........I HAVE NEVER SERIOUSLY USED THE DROPS BEFORE.
The guys reckons I have put strain on the triceps that they have never had for many years.
A few days rest should tell me if he is correct but it does sound/feel correct.......I really hope so.
 
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Interested to see you mention the sit bones. My wife has an injury from spending too much of her life sitting on car seats, meaning that he sit bones are so painful that she hasn't actually sat down for two years; she eats standing, lies on her side and sits sideways on her hips. Two orthopedic and one neuro-specialist have been completely stumped by the problem and steroids and months of physiotherapy have made no difference. Bone scans have shown nothing. It's my belief that with advancing age and reduced blood circulation she has somehow affected the ischeal bones of her pelvis, which have given up on doing the job of supporting her weight when seated. Does any of this ring a bell with you?
Is that question to me??
If so.........not really sorry. My sit bone problem is definitely cycle related i.e. wrong saddle & bike not set up properly.
 
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Don't do any exercises until the pain goes away.

I'd suggest paying for a single session with a sports physio. Get the pain identified, and course of treatment worked out (which may end up sending you to your GP and - if you need it and are lucky - an NHS physio) and get some specific exercises for training the upper body once the injury has healed.
Good avice........thanks.
I had no intention of any excecise as it is just too painful.
I have just posted my thoughts on the possible cause.
 
That sounds pretty plausible. You won't, however, actually know that it was the time on the drops which did it until a) it gets better, b) it doesn't recur when you do not use the drops, c) it then does recur when you try the same thing again, in the drops; that would be almost conclusive.
 
Interested to see you mention the sit bones. My wife has an injury from spending too much of her life sitting on car seats, meaning that he sit bones are so painful that she hasn't actually sat down for two years; she eats standing, lies on her side and sits sideways on her hips. Two orthopedic and one neuro-specialist have been completely stumped by the problem and steroids and months of physiotherapy have made no difference. Bone scans have shown nothing. It's my belief that with advancing age and reduced blood circulation she has somehow affected the ischeal bones of her pelvis, which have given up on doing the job of supporting her weight when seated. Does any of this ring a bell with you?
That is my ultimate horror: pain with no apparent cause, and no apparent cure. I guess you know it better than I do, watching the process. At least she's being treat with respect and understanding. I've heard of people in a similar situation being told it's "all in your mind". Which of course it is. All pain is in the mind.

Give her my respect, if you think it would be welcome. And I hope they can alleviate the pain for her, even if they can never identify the cause.
 

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hi I'm an ex weight lifter and what u describe sound like the triceps when train a muscle be it with weight or supporting ur weight on the muscle which u done on ur ride u break down the fibres which then grow back stronger the ach/pain can last over 5 days even have slight swelling in the muscle even when all good and u do it again it will still hurt a few days later but no where near as much if u touch the muscle it will be sore
if u can feel anything in the joints, ligament tendons see a physio
 
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hi I'm an ex weight lifter and what u describe sound like the triceps when train a muscle be it with weight or supporting ur weight on the muscle which u done on ur ride u break down the fibres which then grow back stronger the ach/pain can last over 5 days even have slight swelling in the muscle even when all good and u do it again it will still hurt a few days later but no where near as much if u touch the muscle it will be sore
if u can feel anything in the joints, ligament tendons see a physio

Thanks.
I have been massaging the area with a mix of lavender & arnicare (really for bruised areas) twice a day and it is starting to get better.
The whole area has been very sore to the touch but is getting less so.
It prevented me raising my arm to head height but I can now reach the back of my head :smile:
Absolutely no pain in joints or ligaments.
 
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