Parking wars outside my house

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pauldavid

Veteran
That we divert the money we spend on private car ownership into more, and more flexible, public transport.

No thank you, you divert yours if you like. Personally I like having private transport. Whether I decide to use my bike/car/motorbike is immaterial really but my choice is to pay for and have the ultimate flexibility that comes from owning my own transport.
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
Well that's me convinced.
What it costs you doesn't get anywhere near the cost of the damage it does. Motorists should stop bleating about being hard done by and exploited, and start stumping up the true costs they cause for all of us.
Do you both actually believe it's the privat motorist that is really causing all the problems & it's nothing to do with the want it next day society, the amount of HGV's on the road, the Buses & Taxi's that clog the streets with their diesel engines which are never switched off for the whole time they are on duty even when stood doing nothing, the planes that put the exhaust gases high up into the atmosphere. I'm clearly biased as I enjoy my cars/bikes but I don't see that the private car is really the biggest issue, but the easiest target, yes I do also understand I am probably in denial, but I am sure there are better ways to resolve some of the issues.
 

toffee

Guru
That we divert the money we spend on private car ownership into more, and more flexible, public transport.

That's rather a broad statement though. How would you get the transport to the people that need it without having a massive over provision of it, which no one wants to pay for.
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
Those are all issues but not the one we are talking about, which is transport.
It was a specific reply to specific statements, TBF the thread is actually about parking, not transport
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
The world of car ownership is completely mad.
Only if they are not your thing, I currently have 4 cars, all parked on my own property that I have modified to accommodate them, I can only drive one at once, but I get enjoyment of of driving them.
 
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Deleted member 26715

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Imagine how much better bus services could be, if they were not being caught up in queues of cars.
I take it you live in an urban area, I live 18 miles from work, it is impractical to cycle, I am not fit enough & even if I were I doubt I still would, as to public transport, it would be a bus, a train & then either a tram or a 2 mile walk, but the real issue I would have to leave home at 10pm to get to work for 7am
 

toffee

Guru
Yes, that is why things have to change.


But that is still just a broad statement. How do we get people working closely enough to where they work that they can walk, cycle or take public transport. We have spent decades slowly moving further from work, the question is how do we reverse it. The problem now is you have 2 people at least in a house working when in the past it was probably 1
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
- and how do you make provision for the numerous different school and work destinations and start and finish times without going back to the situation where all children attended the same school and all villagers worked in the same town at the same large employers (now closed - of course)?
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
Yes, that is why things have to change.
So what is the solution, build hi-rise flats & everybody move into an urban area, that didn't work in the 60's as i remember it
 
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Deleted member 26715

Guest
Why are you demanding that I answer all the questions?
Because you put your head above the parapet as the doom slayer of all cars.

Edit:- Ooops missed the smiley off ^_^ we all know it's not an easy fix.
 
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