Parking wars outside my house

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youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Is it acceptable to expect a 5 year old child to walk 3 miles to school, my grandkids walk 1.1 miles most days, unless the weather is really bad.
Not along major A road with no footway or lights - but that would be a minority of children in the village primary school anyway, coming in from smaller villages with no schools. Its the secondary schools that can be the problem, the closest over 8 miles away along that major A road. There is a school bus, but using it doesn't allow for after school activities, and not all children attend that school. To another major town 8 miles away there is one bus a week on Saturday mornings ..... Kids walking and cycling to school within the village - YES - to be encouraged, and many do. It's a different world outside towns and cities.
 

Julia9054

Legendary Member
Location
Knaresborough
Choices choices.
Actually, most of us have little choice about where and how much we have to work. I guess we choose whether or not to have children
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Actually I don't believe that is really true. I think it is very difficult, which is what most people really mean when they say 'impossible'.

Just like when some people say they live in a village when in fact they live in a town or even on the edge of a city and people who say they live in a small town actually live in a big town or even a city.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
It' a wonder we don' have more of it in Peterboroughs 60s and 70s sprawling local authority estates...and many private estates built since, where there is minimal or no 'on drive' parking. Roadside parking is the norm in many estates and perhaps most have accepted it, first come first served despite the proliferation of cars. Most streets are ram packed with cars most of the time, Xmas is always worse when everyone is at home, cars are even being forced to park on the footpaths or narrowing roads by creating spaces that don' even exist.

Reasons round here include multiple occupancy houses...a huge bain of peoples lives IMO. Look out my back window there's 6 houses. The house directly opposite, four cars I know of, next door, one van and two cars, next door to them, one van and a car, next to them, one horse box until recently and a car and often a van. In the opposite direction, one car, next to them I think two or three cars.
3 out of 6 houses are HMOs and there's up to 16 cars associated with those 6 houses....ridiculous, no wonder people park on paths..or anywhere else they can.

That's modern living for you, that's what our governments have encouraged.
 

Julia9054

Legendary Member
Location
Knaresborough
Just like when some people say they live in a village when in fact they live in a town or even on the edge of a city and people who say they live in a small town actually live in a big town or even a city.
Doesn't matter where you live/say you live, it's whether the public transport is adequate, goes where you need it to go and when you need to go there.
Work has become much more 24 hours, in many parts of the country, public transport hasn't. It should be government's responsibility more than being down to the individual which unfairly impacts on poorer people who have fewer choices.
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
The wealthier and better educated you are, the more choices you have. Most people are just trying to get by.
This is true. And owning a car and using it for everything is a choice mainly available to the relatively well-off. Whereas people with less money and fewer choices bear a disproportionate share of the costs and consequences.
 
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I believe it is time for private car ownership to become very expensive indeed, in parity with the damage it does to us all.
This is where we disagree, although I do agree there is an issue with the number of private cars in households & areas not designed for them, but if it's health that concerns you the private car is not the place to start. There are bigger targets, it's just the private car user easier, although I do support the abolition of VED & put it onto fuel, that way the people who drive the most either by mileage or consumption pay the most. However the Treasury won't entertain that (I did ask) as it would have an affect on rural dwellers.
 

Julia9054

Legendary Member
Location
Knaresborough
This is true. And owning a car and using it for everything is a choice mainly available to the relatively well-off. Whereas people with less money and fewer choices bear a disproportionate share of the costs and consequences.
The flip side is that if someone makes the choice to go car free, this is easier if you have more choices about where and how you work and the ability to move house and choose to live in an area that is public transport accessible.
 
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You mean that we have to carry on subsidising those who choose to live in the country and commute into the cities?
Ask the treasury that was their answer not mine
Or we could do something about the cost of housing so lower earners could afford to live in cities
Why would anyone want to live in a city?
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
The flip side is that if someone makes the choice to go car free, this is easier if you have more choices about where and how you work and the ability to move house and choose to live in an area that is public transport accessible.
Most of the people who don't drive everywhere have not made some kind of lifestyle choice to 'go car free' - they just don't have access to a car, for economic reasons and/or because they live in cities. Having to work somewhere close to your home, or live close to where you work, is just what millions of people have to do.
 
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Most of the people who don't drive everywhere have not made some kind of lifestyle choice to 'go car free' - they just don't have access to a car, for economic reasons and/or because they live in cities. Having to work somewhere close to your home, or live close to where you work, is just what millions of people have to do.
I think we fundamentally disagree on that everybody I know who have made the choice to go 'car free' have made that as a conscious choice, they have chosen to live in a city, they have chosen to move into the city where they work, Even the ones that still have a car but use public transport for most of the time, have chosen to live in a city. I personally would not want to live in a city, I find them horrible places, nice to visit even nicer to leave. I pay the price for this choice already.
 

Julia9054

Legendary Member
Location
Knaresborough
Most of the people who don't drive everywhere have not made some kind of lifestyle choice to 'go car free' - they just don't have access to a car, for economic reasons and/or because they live in cities. Having to work somewhere close to your home, or live close to where you work, is just what millions of people have to do.
Well i did say if someone makes a choice.
Round here people - well off and less well off - drive. Given that cycling with the current infrastructure is not for everyone, it would be hard to work if they didn't.
 
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