Patsy Kensitt and That weight watcher ad

[BigonaBianchi]

Beyond me how anybody can genuinely feel that ex service people (especially those who faced combat and trauma etc) dont deserve the help of the people they are here to defend..the taxpayer. Have to agree with Rifleman smith here.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I wouldn't treat drug or alcohol related stuff either including injuries sustained while drunk.

Really? Just let them wander the streets till they die?

When I did a placement in the veteran's psychological services in primary care, a high percentage had drug and alcohol issues, according to you we should have shown them the door.

Hopefully you'll now see the folly of your statement.

 

[Moderators]

OK, Less of the personal abuse.
Other wise the thread will be locked.

 

[Marshmallow_Fluff]

[QUOTE 2259816, member: 1314"]Pump it up - may need to get a third party in to help with this, if one is inexperienced at fixing a flat. Flats not fixed properly can also result in a leak before getting to the final destination.[/quote]

Exactly my point! It gets all too complicated! That's why I say: stick with the cycling!!!

 

[RiflemanSmith]

Really? Just let them wander the streets till they die?

When I did a placement in the veteran's psychological services in primary care, a high percentage had drug and alcohol issues, according to you we should have shown them the door.

Hopefully you'll now see the folly of your statement.

Alcoholism is a big problem in the army which the army should address, regarding drink/drug/lazy/cosmetic surgery for vanity ie boob jobs etc should not be paid for by the the NHS and should be paid for by the individual.

 

[RiflemanSmith]

I don't quite get your point?
It's always the responsibility of the individual but 99% of the time they don't take responsibility do they and every one else ends up picking up the pieces or paying for them.
If a soldier gets treated for any of those self inflicted ailments on the NHS then he should pay.
I was saying that there is a culture of drinking in the army that the army should address.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Alcoholism is a big problem in the army which the army should address, regarding drink/drug/lazy/cosmetic surgery for vanity ie boob jobs etc should not be paid for by the the NHS and should be paid for by the individual.

Veterans aren't in the forces, they were in the forces. How is this a forces problem? Sorry could you clarify your position? In your opinion, should we treat alcoholic / drug addicted veterans or not?

 

[RiflemanSmith]

Did you read my posts? Try again you might get a clearer idea of my position!
ANYONE and EVERYONE treated on the NHS for those types of self inflicted ailments should be made to pay.
Keep brining in the army and soldiers into just because I am exarmy and have already risen to some boy elses bait has nothing to do with any thing.

 

[Rob3rt]

Did you read my posts? Try again you might get a clearer idea of my position!
ANYONE and EVERYONE treated on the NHS for those types of self inflicted ailments should be made to pay.
Keep brining in the army and soldiers into just because I am exarmy and have already risen to some boy elses bait has nothing to do with any thing.

Not always the case!

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I wouldn't treat drug or alcohol related stuff either including injuries sustained while drunk.

Erm yes you did.


And you launched a personal attack on regulator, I read that as support for veterans should be given. The post was deleted (quite rightly)

 

[RiflemanSmith]

"Not always the case", what?
"Erm yes I did" what?

 

[RiflemanSmith]

@ Robert self inflicted being the operative words.

 

[Rob3rt]

There are potential roots to why the state is "self inflicted". However I feel it is probably pointless debating with you.

 

[Arch]

You sure about that? Like to give the link to where you got that nugget?

Let me give you a little hint... most reputable sites will tell you that a 100g of pasta* has a lot more calories than you suggest (depending on the pasta type... but most are within a 10% range of each other).

Here's a little test for you, to see if you actually know what you're talking about...

..how many calories in 100g of Tesco Wholemeal Fusili?

To make it really easy, as I know you have difficulty finding data or evidence to support your view, I've included the link.

And just so your don't think that I've picked a particularly calorific pasta here's a few more links. see if you can spot how many calories per 100g these pastas contain.

Waitrose Penne Pasta
Waitrose Wholemeal Spaghetti

Just a thought, is OtH thinking of 100g cooked weight, not 100g raw? Presumably 100g cooked was a lot less raw product. Not taking sides. just suggesting a reason for misunderstanding...

Personally, I asume different diets work for different people. Some people can just take a look at themselves and say "This is wrong, I'm going to change" and do it, radically. For some, the excessive nature that got them fat, can be harnessed to get thin again. Others need constant little goals, even some gentle nagging.

I couldn't be doing with points and stuff. When I feel I've got a bit too round, I just try and cut my portion size. I yo yo a bit - I lost a stone over a year by doing a lot more cycling, and over the last two years I've put it back on, because I've ridden less for various reasons, and let myself eat more. I'm fit enough to cope with life, but I could be fitter. I'll work on it, gradually.

 

[Over The Hill]

You sure about that? Like to give the link to where you got that nugget?

Let me give you a little hint... most reputable sites will tell you that a 100g of pasta* has a lot more calories than you suggest (depending on the pasta type... but most are within a 10% range of each other).

Here's a little test for you, to see if you actually know what you're talking about...

..how many calories in 100g of Tesco Wholemeal Fusili?

To make it really easy, as I know you have difficulty finding data or evidence to support your view, I've included the link.

And just so your don't think that I've picked a particularly calorific pasta here's a few more links. see if you can spot how many calories per 100g these pastas contain.

Waitrose Penne Pasta
Waitrose Wholemeal Spaghetti

If you want to contradict me and call me names then perhaps you could find some links that support your view rather than one that supports what i am saying.
Please note post 101

Step by step ....
click on your waitrose wholemeal spaghetti.
RAW it is 346 cal but we eat pasta and measure what we eat when cooked.
COOKED it is 261cal for 180g which is 145 cal per 100g . I said 150cal per 100g so was actually guessing over.
(the tesco pasta works out a bit less)

So as for your test, we can clearly see I know what I am talking about and you perhaps are having difficulty reading a food label.
All dried foods like rice, pasta are calculated on ther cooked weight.

As for your "am I qualified" straw man is the usual fall back of FM etc who attempt to try and take the high ground in a discussion. This is a general chat area on a cycling site so it really is out of place to try to pull silly stunts like that.

The above demonstration shows which one of us knows what they are talking about.
May I suggest that the difficulty your are having is due to you blindly following "points" systems rather than educating yourself in what you are eating. This is exactly what I see as the problem with weight watchers and have been saying all along.
You could not demonstrate my point any better.