Peaches Geldof - only 25

[nickyboy]

[QUOTE 3057383, member: 45"]Easy enough to say, not quite so clear-cut in real life.[/QUOTE]

Why not? When you have responsibilities you modify your behaviour accordingly. Whilst not wanting to appear unduly harsh, people need to take personal responsibility for what happens in their life and the impact they have on others

 

[Sara_H]

What a terrible tragedy.

 

[PK99]

It was sad until it was heroin.

The BBC report has it as heroin "having played a role" rather than "heroin overdose": If it were the latter then there would be some serious questions to be asked and answered as to why no drugs or paraphernalia were found by police at the scene.

 

[Sara_H]

The BBC report has it as heroin "having played a role" rather than "heroin overdose": If it were the latter then there would be some serious questions to be asked and answered as to why no drugs or paraphernalia were found by police at the scene.

Has it been established that no paraphernalia was found?

 

[nickyboy]

[QUOTE 3057610, member: 45"]Of course we do. But we're all exposed to different stressors, and it's too easy to make a such a blatant judgement just because we think heroin is something we'd never end up on.

Spending time with homeless people on the streets, for example, can be pretty frightening as it makes you realise that it could be only a couple of blinks away.[/QUOTE]

Of course things like mental illness, over which one has little or no say in how it affects, I can agree with you on. But as regards hard drugs? That's a lifestyle choice, and not one you should be making when you have a family to consider

 

[User6179]

The BBC report has it as heroin "having played a role" rather than "heroin overdose": If it were the latter then there would be some serious questions to be asked and answered as to why no drugs or paraphernalia were found by police at the scene.

Heroin users are not all injectors , if she smoked it then all she would of needed was tinfoil !

 

[Sara_H]

Of course things like mental illness, over which one has little or no say in how it affects, I can agree with you on. But as regards hard drugs? That's a lifestyle choice, and not one you should be making when you have a family to consider

Mental illness and substance misuse are very often related. We have a close family member who used various drugs and alcohol for many years to mask the symptoms of some very frightening psychotic episodes.

 

[glenn forger]

Mental illness and substance misuse are very often related. We have a close family member who used various drugs and alcohol for many years to mask the symptoms of some very frightening psychotic episodes.

Self-medication is common, it's a chicken-and-egg question, do drug takers have a predisposition to mental illness or do the drugs salve a pre-existing condition? Her death is no less sad for the new details, stigmatising those who use drugs doesn't help.

 

[MontyVeda]

Self-medication is common, it's a chicken-and-egg question, do drug takers have a predisposition to mental illness or do the drugs salve a pre-existing condition? Her death is no less sad for the new details, stigmatising those who use drugs doesn't help.

but it's oh so easy to do... and the view from the moral high ground is great.

 

[hoski]

Of course things like mental illness, over which one has little or no say in how it affects, I can agree with you on. But as regards hard drugs? That's a lifestyle choice, and not one you should be making when you have a family to consider

Not many people have a child and then think, "you know what? I reckon I'll start taking smack."

There was already evidence in the public domain that she had problems with heroin use, and remember, her own mother died of an accidental heroin overdose when she was 11. Dealing with that shoot isn't easy.

 

[nickyboy]

Not many people have a child and then think, "you know what? I reckon I'll start taking smack."

There was already evidence in the public domain that she had problems with heroin use, and remember, her own mother died of an accidental heroin overdose when she was 11. Dealing with that **** isn't easy.

How about thinking "Now I have a child, maybe I should stop taking smack"?

 

[nickyboy]

[QUOTE 3057733, member: 45"]A friend of mine was found floating in one of the fountains in Birmingham city centre some years ago. He was a really nice bloke. Happened to have been brought up in a children's home that at the time was the centre of a sexual abuse culture. He grew up, married a great woman and had two daughters. He had plenty of good times, but always struggled and never managed to break away from whatever he wasn't built to deal with.

Blanket judgements about drug dependency are abhorrent.[/QUOTE]

I would agree that it is never a simple issue. But one cannot equally make a blanket judgement that all drug addicts are victims and it's never their fault, I would hope you can see this point of view.

 

[spen666]

Its what happens when you do drugs and live without proper boundaries. She never seemed to have any boundaries or controls in last 10-15 years.


Sad for her kids that she never protected them from the pain her mother's death caused her. Seems like history has repeated itself

Seems I was correct all along.

 

[mickle]

Seems I was correct all along.

Enjoy!

 

[spen666]

Enjoy!

It gives me no pleasure that a young woman throws her life away and leaves young children to suffer the same pain she endured as a child