Pedestrians

[Angelfishsolo]

Although to be frank there's quite a bit of bullying going on in this topic. Shame really, it's what can make CC a sometimes rather unpleasant place.

Could you point out some of the bullying please?

 

[rowan 46]

There is a couple of strange arguments going on in this thread Firstly to suggest that a cyclist on a shared use path in a park is not a hazard to pedestrians is inaccurate. However the risk posed to pedestrians by the cyclist riding properly is very minimal, as the op suggested that risk can increase by stepping in front of an approaching cycle and it would be wise of parents to remind their kids of the dangers of stepping in front of bikes. But it has to be said that as has been posted by several others if you hit anybody on a path it's your fault under the law. if you are unsure what the child is going to do, stop. It's why we have brakes.

 

[wiggydiggy]

There is a couple of strange arguments going on in this thread Firstly to suggest that a cyclist on a shared use path in a park is not a hazard to pedestrians is inaccurate. However the risk posed to pedestrians by the cyclist riding properly is very minimal, as the op suggested that risk can increase by stepping in front of an approaching cycle and it would be wise of parents to remind their kids of the dangers of stepping in front of bikes. But it has to be said that as has been posted by several others if you hit anybody on a path it's your fault under the law. if you are unsure what the child is going to do, stop. It's why we have brakes.

Your absolutely right and unfortunately the message is getting a little lost in the chaff.....

The 'parents to remind kids of danger' should not be mistaken for 'keep them chained up so they cant run free' For me children on the shared path are the biggest reason to slow down, they just dont have the sense of danger yet would tell other people to take care around a (slowing) bicycle.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Your absolutely right and unfortunately the message is getting a little lost in the chaff.....

The 'parents to remind kids of danger' should not be mistaken for 'keep them chained up so they cant run free' For me children on the shared path are the biggest reason to slow down, they just dont have the sense of danger yet would tell other people to take care around a (slowing) bicycle.

+1

 

[dellzeqq]

True, but parents also have a responsibility to make sure that their children are safe.

If they allow their children to run/play unsupervised in an area where there is a risk of them getting injured or killed they have to accept some of the blame for what happens to their children.

Here is a scenario that can easily happen:

We have Jane cyclist riding her bike down the bike/multi use path in the park. To her right is a good sized group of people walking on the pedestrian side, to her left there is a family enjoying a picnic lunch, running down the path head straight at her is small child. She has three options:

a) she can veer right and run into that group of people
b) she can veer left and run into the family enjoying their picnic
c) she can stay her path and run into the child

none of the above
d) she should slow to walking pace, stop if need be, and proceed only when she knows it's safe to do so.

 

[dellzeqq]

Uh, actually growing up my parents had a harness and leash for each of us kids.

with entirely predictable results

 

[Angelfishsolo]

none of the above
d) she should slow to walking pace, stop if need be, and proceed only when she knows it's safe to do so.

Oh come on we all know that nothing has the right to stop a cyclist!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

with entirely predictable results

 

[dellzeqq]

wrong!!! not even a good try

is this radical denial of responsibility

a) an ironic comment on our political system
b) a provocation designed to radicalise pedestrians
c) an art installation looking for public subsidy
d) ignorant

 

[MontyVeda]

I've been trying to avoid this thread lately for obvious reasons but...

Here is a scenario that can easily happen:

We have Jane cyclist riding her bike down the bike/multi use path in the park. To her right is a good sized group of people walking on the pedestrian side, to her left there is a family enjoying a picnic lunch, running down the path head straight at her is small child. She has three options:

a) she can veer right and run into that group of people
b) she can veer left and run into the family enjoying their picnic
c) she can stay her path and run into the child

...I can't believe anybody posted this!

 

[wiggydiggy]

Uh, actually growing up my parents had a harness and leash for each of us kids.

Oooh I missed this one, takes me back.

I had reins on me when smaller, I think I had it until I had learnt to stop being a little monkey and running in front of everyone and anyone To be fair I think I only had it whilst learning to walk so my parents could be close in case of a tumble, its certainly not on any pictures of me once I stopped toddling.

 

[benb]

There is a couple of strange arguments going on in this thread Firstly to suggest that a cyclist on a shared use path in a park is not a hazard to pedestrians is inaccurate. However the risk posed to pedestrians by the cyclist riding properly is very minimal, as the op suggested that risk can increase by stepping in front of an approaching cycle and it would be wise of parents to remind their kids of the dangers of stepping in front of bikes. But it has to be said that as has been posted by several others if you hit anybody on a path it's your fault under the law. if you are unsure what the child is going to do, stop. It's why we have brakes.

If ridden properly, a cyclist should not pose a hazard to pedestrians.

 

[BentMikey]

*snigger*

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

*snigger*

Pfffft. Well spotted!

 

[benb]

*snigger*