tongskie01
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cant believe its still goin on.
Pedestrians
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wiggydiggy
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To be fair I think theres two things going on, one is a fairly lively chat about pedestrians and shared path use, the other one you need to be a member of the 'Cyclechat Inner Sanctum' and I cant figure it out
**I'm joking of course
If walking with brain engaged a pedestrian should not pose a hazard to a cyclist (excluding dogs & children)
If you mean wandering into the road with looking, I agree (although as responsible road users, we should try and be ready for that sort of thing).
If you mean wandering about unpredictably on a path, I disagree, as they have every right to do so.
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Pleas don't try and make excuses for your poor anticipation. Peds (within reason) and away from a road can pretty much do what they want.
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Lee, I'm happy to say this is one area we are in complete agreement (I knew there had to be one!)
Pleas don't try and make excuses for your poor anticipation. Peds (within reason) and away from a road can pretty much do what they want.
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Lee, I'm happy to say this is one area we are in complete agreement (I knew there had to be one!)
Angelfishsolo
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Ben as I've said before certain cyclists believe that they own everywhere they ride and anyone getting in their way is fair game. They also complain when road users behave in the same way.
the difference between the two is simple - speed hurts. People walking in a park do, in a general kind of way, owe it to others (and to themselves) not to walk in to one another, albeit that the risk is tiny. Cyclists, travelling at a greater speed, should ensure, as best they can, that they don't injure others, or put others in fear of injury. Further cyclists should get it in to their heads that their speed is seen as an affront, or disrespectful to the spirit of certain places, notably parks, which are, after all, places of recreation.
If memory serves the Highway Code tells us to ride on shared paths no faster than twelve miles an hour. Lambeth Council has imposed a five miles an hour speed limit across Clapham Common. I would say that if there were people on a shared path then eight or nine miles an hour would be a sensible maximum, and that one should reduce one's speed still further (as Ben does in his video) when close to pedestrians, especially children, the elderly, or people with headphones on. If you can't work out how to do this, take to the road. And if you can't work out why you should do this, then it' probably because you lack the ability to empathise with others.
Angelfishsolo
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Pleas don't try and make excuses for your poor anticipation. Peds (within reason) and away from a road can pretty much do what they want.
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Stop bullying poor locker.
Pleas don't try and make excuses for your poor anticipation. Peds (within reason) and away from a road can pretty much do what they want.
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Stop bullying poor locker.
Angelfishsolo
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Well said
wow! back to talking sense again, glad I`ve pulled you all together again, now behave yourselves, got to go out on the cycle path for the 30 mins
rowan 46
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http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/theory/alarpglance.htm I'll quote from the link for those who can't be bothered to read
Definition of a hazard
A hazard is something (e.g. an object, a property of a substance, a phenomenon or an activity) that can cause adverse effects.
Definition of a risk
A risk is the likelihood that a hazard will actually cause its adverse effects,
To recap a cyclist is a hazard for pedestrians on shared footpath and vice versa however the risk is minimal if the cyclist behaves properly and in law it is up to cyclists to take the appropriate action to minimise risk. Before people get on their high horses about cycling is not a hazard I have seen at least one person on a video knocked down by a cyclist. cycling was certainly hazardous for that person
Definition of a hazard
A hazard is something (e.g. an object, a property of a substance, a phenomenon or an activity) that can cause adverse effects.
Definition of a risk
A risk is the likelihood that a hazard will actually cause its adverse effects,
To recap a cyclist is a hazard for pedestrians on shared footpath and vice versa however the risk is minimal if the cyclist behaves properly and in law it is up to cyclists to take the appropriate action to minimise risk. Before people get on their high horses about cycling is not a hazard I have seen at least one person on a video knocked down by a cyclist. cycling was certainly hazardous for that person
Angelfishsolo
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To mimic Mr Paul. Competent cyclists do not pose a hazard to pedestrians
GrasB
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[QUOTE 1484380"]Pedestrians don't pose a hazard to competent cyclists.[/quote]
I'd add to this, a competent cyclist not threatened by a 3rd party - say without a motorist intimidating a cyclist as they attempts to pass a pedestrian walking reasonably along the side of the road with an appropriate gap (eg a 2m gap to the ped at 20mph)
I'd add to this, a competent cyclist not threatened by a 3rd party - say without a motorist intimidating a cyclist as they attempts to pass a pedestrian walking reasonably along the side of the road with an appropriate gap (eg a 2m gap to the ped at 20mph)
rowan 46
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If you had read the post you would have read That I had pretty much said that but its not true to say there is no risk which some have said . The fact is if you behave like a pillock someone is going to get hurt
Angelfishsolo
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I did read your post and I stand by my statement which contains the key word competent.
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