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Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Our JB is clearly a :troll: and I for one will no longer play along. Suggest that others do the same.
 

JonnyBlade

Live to Ride
i'm worried to take my kids to the park now. you might hit one of them and class it as necessary accident.

I suspect you let them wander wherever they like so they should be aware of all the hazards around them. I will of course navigate safely around them
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benb

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wrong!!! not even a good try

Drivel. Unless someone hides behind a bush and hurls themselves into your path, a cyclist-pedestrian collision should never happen on a path in a park.
If it does, the cyclist was cycling too fast, or not giving enough room, or didn't make the pedestrian aware of his presence, or all three.

You are a pathetic troll and are now the only person to be put on my ignore list - not even Lee has managed that!
 

JonnyBlade

Live to Ride
Drivel. Unless someone hides behind a bush and hurls themselves into your path, a cyclist-pedestrian collision should never happen on a path in a park.
If it does, the cyclist was cycling too fast, or not giving enough room, or didn't make the pedestrian aware of his presence, or all three.

You are a pathetic troll and are now the only person to be put on my ignore list - not even Lee has managed that!

And you dismiss what you do not know or understand. I shall add you to the 'grossly unintelligent' list and ignore you accordingly.

btw 'troll' is a great word and thank you
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Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Drivel. Unless someone hides behind a bush and hurls themselves into your path, a cyclist-pedestrian collision should never happen on a path in a park.
If it does, the cyclist was cycling too fast, or not giving enough room, or didn't make the pedestrian aware of his presence, or all three.

You are a pathetic troll and are now the only person to be put on my ignore list - not even Lee has managed that!
Just added him to mine as well :thumbsup:
 
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You WANT children wandering about where they can get hit and hurt possibly looking at a serious injury or even death? Is that what you are saying?

The only real MUP that we have where I live, the "worse" that I have seen is people allowing their dogs to roam free on it. However when I am riding through the parks in the downtown area the parents have control of their children and keep them from just wandering about/playing on the sidewalk. And because sadly so many cyclists bomb down the sidewalk as if they're out on the road most of the parents are constantly warning their children to be careful of the approaching bikes.

As I think I've mentioned elsewhere, when I'm riding through these parks, I slow my speed down so that if a small child or dog "pops" up in front of my bike I can stop quicker.

There are some places where children shouldn't be allowed to wander/play. And a bike/multi use path is one of those places.
 

Rhythm Thief

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Ross on Wye
How very condescending and mature. Crap crystal ball by the way I have 2 and when they were small I made sure they were safe. Kids don't bother about the dangers around they just want to have fun, and why not? It is our job to keep them safe. Perhaps you shouldn't let your children get in the way of others just because they can.

I was always taught it was a matter of manners

Why not indeed? This is why you cycle accordingly around them.
For the record, it's not just kids. Any adult in a park or on a shared use path is quite entitled to walk around in a random zig zag pattern if they want to: if that inconveniences people on bikes, tough. Cyclists are the ones bringing the danger to shared use paths, just as motor vehicles do on the road. And in the same way as motor vehicles have to take responsibility for driving safely on the road, so do cyclists on shared use paths.
 
Parents should have a tag on small children. I would want to make sure my boys don't have collisions with moving cycles! We have a duty of care IMO to be mindful of pedestrians but they have to show common sense also. There are places where children should be left to roam and there are places where mum and dad should keep a short leash.

Stroppy teenagers sat in groups on cycles paths is a different issue all together
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Agreed, parents need to take responsibility for the safety of their children. Just as other users have a responsibility not to endanger other path users. Exactly, mum and dad need to be mindful of where they allow their children to "roam free."

So far knock on wood I haven't had too many encounters with any unruly teenagers.
 
No, it's cyclists' responsibility to avoid pedestrians on paths, no matter how young they are or how erratically they are behaving.

True, but parents also have a responsibility to make sure that their children are safe.

If they allow their children to run/play unsupervised in an area where there is a risk of them getting injured or killed they have to accept some of the blame for what happens to their children.

Here is a scenario that can easily happen:

We have Jane cyclist riding her bike down the bike/multi use path in the park. To her right is a good sized group of people walking on the pedestrian side, to her left there is a family enjoying a picnic lunch, running down the path head straight at her is small child. She has three options:

a) she can veer right and run into that group of people
b) she can veer left and run into the family enjoying their picnic
c) she can stay her path and run into the child

Regardless of the option that she chooses the parents of the child share in the responsibility because they were not supervising their child.

Here's another possible scenario:

Johnny cyclist is riding down the same bike/multi use path minding his own business, a small child runs out and onto the path. Right into his rear wheel knocking Johnny cyclist over. Injuring both cyclist & child alike. Again if the parents had been supervising their child the crash never would have happened.

Granted the odds of either or a similar scenario happening is low, but they are still possible. And the parents would share in the responsibility of actions of their child(ren)
 
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