Pennine Trails running marshal sacked

[Beebo]

There was an issue last weekend during a Pennine trails event at Gisburn.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/ThkTDu-HHNU?si=0O6D9rT4c1y-9z-M


It appears that a 14 year old on a bike swore at an older male runner.
The runner reacted very badly, but the marshal was appalling. She has since been removed from her role.
Whether a 14 year old should be swearing isn’t really the issue, the reaction by the man and woman is unbelievable.

 

[Beebo]

Pennine Trails should ban the runner for life from their events.

"Abuse directed at our volunteers...." No abuse was directed at the volunteer in the video.

I suspect there has been online abuse.

 

[Profpointy]

Pennine Trails should ban the runner for life from their events.

"Abuse directed at our volunteers...." No abuse was directed at the volunteer in the video.

To be fair that isn't what it says. It implies future abuse

 

[Supersuperleeds]

The bloke is lucky that the kids dad didn't deck him, he was a lot calmer than I would have been.

 

[Profpointy]

Like I say, I didn't read it that way I so I thought it could be clearer.

There is something in that too

 

[Tail End Charlie]

I thought the lad's dad (I presume it is) handled it very well. Hard to believe that an adult would react in that way, it's the way he keeps returning which is the bad part. Why not just carry on running?

 

[cougie uk]

There was an issue last weekend during a Pennine trails event at Gisburn.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/ThkTDu-HHNU?si=0O6D9rT4c1y-9z-M


It appears that a 14 year old on a bike swore at an older male runner.
The runner reacted very badly, but the marshal was appalling. She has since been removed from her role.
Whether a 14 year old should be swearing isn’t really the issue, the reaction by the man and woman is unbelievable.

Can you sack a volunteer ?

Poor woman volunteered her day pointing people in the right direction and ended up refereeing a fight.

Kid was in the wrong. Old runner was in the wrong. Marshall caught in the middle.

 

[classic33]

Can you sack a volunteer ?

Poor woman volunteered her day pointing people in the right direction and ended up refereeing a fight.

Kid was in the wrong. Old runner was in the wrong. Marshall caught in the middle.

Father in the wrong.
Marshall on the end of the verbal abuse from the father.

 

[fossyant]

The young lad is autistic, and his dad is sorry about the exchange (seen other videos) but the fact is an adult assaulted a child.

 

[Drago]

Four stiff fingers in baldies windpipe (hes assaulted and child, reasonably held belief he was about to assault me now, officer) would have ended the incident before it could descend into a who-can-be-the-biggest-prat match.

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

Could we blame a lack of training? If Pennine Trails hasn't prepared their volunteers in some basic conflict resolution that could explain why this escalated so quickly.

I have marshalled at many events and,aside from motor racing and British Cycling events, have never seen any training of marshals taking place.

 

[cougie uk]

Could we blame a lack of training? If Pennine Trails hasn't prepared their volunteers in some basic conflict resolution that could explain why this escalated so quickly.

Have you ever marshalled your Club 10 or something similar ? What conflict resolution training did you get ?
It's a volunteer. Not a United Nations Peacekeeping Force.

It's like pulling teeth trying to get members to fulfil their commitments to marshal two events a year already without them having to do training courses as well.

 

[Drago]

I have marshalled at many events and,aside from motor racing and British Cycling events, have never seen any training of marshals taking place.

I've marshalled a few and found the organisation terrible and guidance non existent. On top of that a tiny minority of riders behave like utter dilberts towards the marshals, bad enough that I've never volunteered since.

 

[Profpointy]

Can you sack a volunteer ?

Poor woman volunteered her day pointing people in the right direction and ended up refereeing a fight.

Kid was in the wrong. Old runner was in the wrong. Marshall caught in the middle.

Did you watch the video ? The marshal is shown angrily shouting at the man who is trying to back off and de-escallate. If she'd been a bloke the father would have been expecting to have to defend himself from an assault any second. Her actions encouraged the angry old man to join in again. I'd have been genuinely frightened and be thinking about whether to hit out before being assaulted by two crazy people

 

[gbb]

Pretty awful behaviour by all and the trouble is, we didn't see what caused it and without that, any opinion is pretty pointless.
The one I feel sorry for is the Marshall. Probably not experienced that kind of thing before, as said, probably not trained how to deal with it, possibly right out of her depth, denied the opportunity to de escalate by the dad...I doubt she will ever ever want any further doings with it ever again.