Personal Injury "Blackmail"

[fossyant]

The world is full of liars Thomas......some not very honest people out there ! As the liability is split, how much will it cost each of you in the flat for the window ?

 

[thomas]

So please clarify:
The person who broke the window shares a flat with you in the same building where there are other flats
or
The person who broke the window rents another flat in the same building that your flat is in

If it is the former then the cost of the repair will be down to both of you and whoever else shares your flat with you.

If it is the later then they need to invoice the flat that the other person lives in.

If you are absolutely certain that this person caused the damage then tell all the other residents in the building that they will be getting a share of the cost because X wouldn't own up. Let the masses decide.

Well, they're UNI halls, so I rent a room and have use of a communal kitchen and bathroom. I am liable for my room and communal damage (which cannot be attributed to someone.

There are 12 rooms which can 'store' 14 people. There are 12 people in my hall. I am part of a bigger flat (there are 5 floors in a similar fashion).

Hope that makes sense...

If he can claim it was an accident then what is he concerned about? He should still pay for it and then make an issue about cleanliness of the floor and the H&S aspects of it.

Even if it was an accident I believe he would still be liable. If the floor was a H&S issue you could argue that house keeping are responsible, however, there are mops/brushes/etc so could have made it safe for himself.

My last direct debit for accommodation goes tomorrow, after that I'm making sure the bank cancel it completely so they can't take anything extra without me being aware. I don't want them taking money out for this window when there isn't money in the account, etc.

The world is full of liars Thomas......some not very honest people out there ! As the liability is split, how much will it cost each of you in the flat for the window ?

Well, so far there is a £10 admin fee plus whatever it costs for the window (as of yet, this is unknown) and fixing it (again, unknown).

It's one of these windows that has been broken:
http://www.ueaaccommodation.com/med...suffolk/fullsize/Norfolk Terrace Exts 002.jpg

They are big, so I would have thought aren't that cheap.

 

[johnnyh]

heck, if it's possible the suspect could have slipped due to the mess on your floor and broken a window as a result maybe he could take a case against the flat dwellers neglect for his safety!

 

[johnnyh]

It's one of these windows that has been broken:
http://www.ueaaccommodation.com/med...suffolk/fullsize/Norfolk Terrace Exts 002.jpg

They are big, so I would have thought aren't that cheap.

ooof that looks pricey

 

[gavintc]

the idea of trying to claim for a neck spasm that might have been down to a tap falling off is quite frankly exactly what is so gone wrong with this country.

+1 - get real

..and what is the connection to a broken window. If you are responsible for it - you pay. The uni is not going to run around finding someone to pay - that is your problem. Pay up and then get the money from other party. The uni does not act like Daddy.

 

[thomas]

heck, if it's possible the suspect could have slipped due to the mess on your floor and broken a window as a result maybe he could take a case against the flat dwellers neglect for his safety!

It would have been water, probably from him washing up. I'd much rather he was honest and then took that approach, as all my stuff is put away and I clean up after myself. He'd have a hard time proving anything...

As I said, he is in the same position as everyone else for clearing up mess/making sure you are safe in there.

The cleaner would be able to support me, as I have helped move other people's filth so she can clean the surfaces.

ooof that looks pricey

Yep, hence I don't want to pay for it. Not so unreasonable.

..and what is the connection to a broken window. If you are responsible for it - you pay. The uni is not going to run around finding someone to pay - that is your problem. Pay up and then get the money from other party. The uni does not act like Daddy.

How on earth would I go about getting the money from someone else when no one has come forward for it now!

 

[Crackle]

So you've been framed for the window and are a bit tapped off about it? Sounds like an open and shut casement to me.

Wot?

 

[marinyork]

Sounds a bit haphazardly handled to me. Is there not a porter/someone/Dean to sort this out? We had thieves/members of the public cause damage to halls and we weren't billed for it. Sounds totally screwed up.

P.S. I wouldn't necessarily believe the word of some idiot in the maintenance department.

 

[thomas]

Sounds a bit haphazardly handled to me. Is there not a porter/someone/Dean to sort this out? We had thieves/members of the public cause damage to halls and we weren't billed for it. Sounds totally screwed up.

Ohh! That's quite a good idea actually - thank you!! I'll shoot an email off to the resident tutor see if he can sort it out

 

[Landslide]

When you go to wash your hands you don't expect the tap to come off in your hand, and water to go shooting up. The doctor said, the neck spasm would have been caused by me being surprised by this, clenching and a muscle in my neck doing something stupid.

(well, I made up the last bit - it was a while ago)

You mention blackmail in your thread title. You essentially admit to falsifying what a medical professional said to you.

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM TO ENDORSE THE COURSE OF ACTION THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING?

If you really don't want to pay for the damages to this window then enlist the support of your flatmates. If necessary, bring a civil action against the (alleged) guilty party. Otherwise, HTFU.

 

[johnnyh]

So you've been framed for the window and are a bit tapped off about it? Sounds like an open and shut casement to me.

Wot?

it will take someone with vision to draw the curtains on this one.

 

[Crackle]

You mention blackmail in your thread title. You essentially admit to falsifying what a medical professional said to you.

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM TO ENDORSE THE COURSE OF ACTION THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING?

If you really don't want to pay for the damages to this window then enlist the support of your flatmates. If necessary, bring a civil action against the (alleged) guilty party. Otherwise, HTFU.

The OP was so farcical, I'm afraid I couldn't take it seriously. It then went on to beggar belief as well.

I suggest we all fire off some quick pm's to point out the rights and wrongs of this.

 

[bonj2]

Hang on, surely they can't charge you for this window unless they can prove that you broke it?

 

[thomas]

You mention blackmail in your thread title. You essentially admit to falsifying what a medical professional said to you.

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT ANYONE ON THIS FORUM TO ENDORSE THE COURSE OF ACTION THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING?

If you really don't want to pay for the damages to this window then enlist the support of your flatmates. If necessary, bring a civil action against the (alleged) guilty party. Otherwise, HTFU.

It's only blackmail in the sense that if they claim for their damages, I'll claim for mine.

I don't quite see what falsification would be going on? Due to the tap coming off I had a neck spasm...

Excuse me for not wanting to pay possibly hundreds of pounds out for something I didn't have any part of.

Hang on, surely they can't charge you for this window unless they can prove that you broke it?

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=740721&postcount=13

Second quote in that post

 

[bonj2]

I accept accidents happen, but believe the appropriate party should come forward for it. As for 'snatching' the tap, it came off very, very easily and when I left the other tap in that bath room seemed to be a bit loose at the base which may suggest another one will come off.

Well there you go then - you've got a watertight case.
Get a mate to warn them about that tap, then when they don't bother doing anything about it, snatch that one off as well, then you can claim they were warned about it but failed to act - clear case of negligence.
You might on second thoughts want to get another mate to do the claim, 'cos you don't want to be marked down as a serial tap-snatcher.