Pi advice - not Pie...

[vernon]

My butler is doing a humanities doctorate and felt particularly put-out that someone should think that education can be closely aligned to the filthy profit motive.

Sadly Finland hasn't learned from failure of the UK pursuit of employability skills being embedded in the core of the curriculum.

http://www.oph.fi/english/current_issues/101/0/what_is_going_on_in_finland_curriculum_reform_2016

They are abandoning their low exam count to adopt a death by examination and scrutiny approach.

 

[Tin Pot]

No need to philosophise. I've answered his question.

If only I understood the answer.

 

[Tin Pot]

....ah, there's a philosophical question. Actually I'm not sure that some parts of academia need to be aligned to industry. There is much more to education that being the slave to GB plc.

I've long held that university should not be used to prep for work, but the world has ignored me:

We need some academics, not the millions of loafers studying history of art, we need a lot more professionals with vocational training.

Nobody wants to take vocational training, everyone in business respects academic qualifications even though it is completely inappropriate.

 

[vernon]

If only I understood the answer.

Best selling titles like:

The Joys of Worker Subjugation
Profit Without Exploitation
The Pleasures of Tedious Meetings

Or more usefully, aimed at the IT/ICT learning communities

Modelling Stock Control With Spreadsheets
Creating Online Diagnostic Questionnaires for Health and Well Being
Meaningful Computer Simulations

It's all very well bemoaning the existence of a void between schools, universities and industry but the onus, in my opinion is for industry and commerce to put on their make up and glad rags and become attractive to school leavers and handing them some basic cosmetics and clothing to help them on their way.

Teachers and pupils alike can not be expected to be in the know of the expectations of the working world if the working world does not provide cues and resources about what's involved in the transition from pupils to wealth creator.

Local partnerships are beginning to emerge with some industry sponsored technical schools and some sponsored academies which offer 'off script' learning experiences but as @User14044 mused, to what extent is the purpose of education to provide feedstock for industry and commerce? Where is the tipping point where education becomes vocational training? Can academic education and vocational training co-exist?

 

[IDMark2]

I know this is a tad off-topic

I'll say, I keep returning to the thread, responding to the little red notifications, and finding no links to cheap developing computers at all...
I feel violated....

 

[IDMark2]

Good luck with the Pi purchase - I have one of the original ones. I use the TV as my monitor. Do let us know how you get on.

Well, to be honest the thread got more interesting after my selfish needs were met.
Right. Let's do Pie next...

Edit: Mrs ID has done the deed on the link @vernon provided (sorry and @marknotgeorge earlier)... so either my son or myself will be getting it now...

 

[Dayvo]

Right. Let's do Pie next...

Now we're talking!

I'm on day 7 off a 10-day fast and at the moment, although I'm not hungry at present, I could eat anything that has got a bit of taste to it. (un)wisely I've been reading cooking book for recipes to make my next 7 dinners.

 

[IDMark2]

I'm on day 7 off a 10-day fast and at the moment,

Sorry, did you mean 7 'minutes', you typed 'days' accidentally I think...

 

[Dayvo]

Sorry, did you mean 7 'minutes', you typed 'days' accidentally I think...

I wish.

Only ca 60 hours to go.

 

[IDMark2]

Well, whatever the reasons for your voluntary (I assume) fast I hope it achieves whatever you want it to.
Meanwhile, shall I mischievously post a picture of one of Patrick's creations...


Oh... I don't seem to be able to find one.

 

[vernon]

I'll say, I keep returning to the thread, responding to the little red notifications, and finding no links to cheap developing computers at all...
I feel violated....

Let me shoulder the burden of your violation.

Here's a book that will assist with the learning of Python, Python for Kids

I've had a lot of fun with my Raspberry Pi computers and I experienced the excitement of learning, something that is lacking in a lot of exam focussed exam driven lessons, when I learned how to:

Control my Rasperry Pi remotely from any laptop, tablet, smartphone or desktop computer
Create a Wordpress blog on it
Use the Raspberry Pi as a website/blog host accessible by anyone with Internet access
Control the speed and direction of motors using Python

I am going to resurrect my Pie Blog sometime soon and it will be hosted on one of my Pis

I hope that your son has lots of fun with his Pi.

 

[Scoosh]

Only ca 60 hours to go.

Hmmm - maybe we need a revision to the Countdown clock ...

 

[Tin Pot]

It's all very well bemoaning the existence of a void between schools, universities and industry but the onus, in my opinion is for industry and commerce to put on their make up and glad rags and become attractive to school leavers and handing them some basic cosmetics and clothing to help them on their way.

So of the best educated and brightest, you think a haircut and some deodorant is too much to expect? They've been adults for three years at this point, I don't.

Is progress being made? Yes, I don't think it's all negative.

Do a few vocational courses in the academic year help - yes.

Is work actually fun, engaging and stimulating? No, that's what internet porn is for.

 

[vernon]

I'll add the inadvertantly missed word from my original sentence

It's all very well bemoaning the existence of a void between schools, universities and industry but the onus, in my opinion is for industry and commerce to put on their metaphoric make up and glad rags and become attractive to school leavers and handing them some basic metaphoric cosmetics and clothing to help them on their way.

I was thinking faster than I could type.

Re-writing it for clarity.

It's all very well bemoaning the existence of a void between schools, universities and industry but the onus, in my opinion is for industry and commerce to produce an alluring demonstration of skills package which will appeal to school leavers and help to provide the means for them to be attractive partners in the employer/employee relationship.

I look forward to your response to the latter amendment.

 

[Tin Pot]

I'll add the inadvertantly missed word from my original sentence



I was thinking faster than I could type.

Re-writing it for clarity.

It's all very well bemoaning the existence of a void between schools, universities and industry but the onus, in my opinion is for industry and commerce to produce an alluring demonstration of skills package which will appeal to school leavers and help to provide the means for them to be attractive partners in the employer/employee relationship.

I look forward to your response to the latter amendment.

I hear what your saying but industry doesn't need to bend over backwards - we're giving graduates tips.

Whilst you were being metaphoric, I wasn't - candidates often reek and have made no effort, believing that industry needs to win their graces. People regularly complain to me about basic hygiene and grammar of university graduates, this is not something for industry to fix - we get them from abroad instead where none of these things are ever an issue.

The reason people in industry want graduates to shape up is not because they will lose money if they don't. It's not because they won't get their bonus. It's because they are being kind enough to advise people who really should know better by that age.