Plan to bring UK clocks forward

[snorri]

People like snorri, farmers and so on are unusual and actually quite intolerant to anyone different from them.

Errrr, I could say the same of you.

 

[marinyork]

Gosh! Really!?? I never noticed. Probably because, if you check the link for sunrise / sunset times I gave earlier, I was never walking to school in civil twilight, but at best only nautical twilight, or what most people would call 'dark'.

Yes, but that's the point, they wouldn't necessarily. I'm very aware of what all the terms mean, I'm very much more interested in astronomy than yourself for example...

And my point pinning you down on this is you're trying to fiddle some of the times some of your walk thinking I haven't read the figures, either you had a very short walk or some of your walk was just outside/inside civil dawn which contradicts what you say about walking around in civil twilight.

How do you know? I didn't say I could get home before sunset, I said I could get home in daylight.

Obviously, you're just being obtuse now trying to have things both ways. It's either a problem or it isn't. If it isn't a problem then there's also the other case at the start of the day within civil twilight, it's just you thought I hadn't noticed. And/or it was a short walk. Somewhere in there it's not half as big a problem as you say and the times don't back up your story.

 

[marinyork]

Errrr, I could say the same of you.

Not really, I'm an insomniac and I've never pretended everybody's sleeping patterns are the same as mine, mine are unusual, but there's huge variation. I don't like darkness but I make the best of it as that's just how my body clock is, whereas you have something that suits yours and you still moan about it and think the world should revolve around you. I get quite tired of some of the stupid comments like someone made on this forum once about people could get used to the mornings if they got up earlier.

 

[MacB]

I just looked it up and the clocks went back an hour on 30/31 Oct 2010, sunrise the day before the change was 0750 in London and 0652 the next day. That would indicate to me that when sunrise again reaches 0652, for 2011 that's about 26/02/11, then it should be good to change the clocks back.

Or is there something that says the sunrise/sunset times we cope with in the last week of October each year are suddenly insurmountable at the end of February?

 

[Aperitif]

How can you possibly comment if your watch has stopped, or perhaps a bit slow?

Might even be fast - but that's just sad.

 

[Chromatic]

If going to and from school in the dark is that big a deal as far as which time thing we use then why not have the long school holiday in the winter instead of the summer?

 

[snorri]

you have something that suits yours and you still moan about it and think the world should revolve around you.

If you could point me to the post that has given you that impression, then I will consider rewording it.

 

[Mr Celine]

Yes, but that's the point, they wouldn't necessarily. I'm very aware of what all the terms mean, I'm very much more interested in astronomy than yourself for example...

Should I bow to your omniscience or your astronomical knowledge?

And my point pinning you down on this is you're trying to fiddle some of the times some of your walk thinking I haven't read the figures, either you had a very short walk or some of your walk was just outside/inside civil dawn which contradicts what you say about walking around in civil twilight.

You either haven't read the figures, don't understand them or are using different definitions. My walk to school, during the period quoted, was entirely outwith civil twilight.

And yes it was a problem. To a five year old walking any distance in the dark is a big problem.