Plan to bring UK clocks forward

[marinyork]

School started at 9. I would have set off at 8 I think. So out of bed about 7:15. IIRC the sun would come up 9:30 or so.

Sorry marinyork. Forgetting my facts like that

For secondary school, I had to set off for school out the door at about 7:05am. For primary school it was more like 8:20am. From my recollections Primary school was scarier but this is just my perceptions and is actually countered by the evidence which says I'm wrong. In anycase coming home from Secondary school seemed scarier in the winter, a lot more scary. As I've said before I think the school case is overstated because around the two weeks with the latest sunrise in the year schools are out. The other interesting thing is that if you were interested in not a sudden change you could put the clocks forward at the end of february instead of the ludicrous position at the end of March - you have half term. For example around here if the switch went the first Sunday after half term starts over that period you'd get back 23 minutes of the hour you've just lost when school restarts.

 

[Fnaar]

I remember at Primary school being given fluorescent armbands to wear. And getting loads of practice on how to cross the road. And the "Tufty club" (or was that a dream I had...)

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

For secondary school, I had to set off for school out the door at about 7:05am. For primary school it was more like 8:20am. From my recollections Primary school was scarier but this is just my perceptions and is actually countered by the evidence which says I'm wrong. In anycase coming home from Secondary school seemed scarier in the winter, a lot more scary. As I've said before I think the school case is overstated because around the two weeks with the latest sunrise in the year schools are out. The other interesting thing is that if you were interested in not a sudden change you could put the clocks forward at the end of february instead of the ludicrous position at the end of March - you have half term. For example around here if the switch went the first Sunday after half term starts over that period you'd get back 23 minutes of the hour you've just lost when school restarts.

That's a thought. Just do the clocks for that short period around Xmas.

My memory was not of being scared. More of having that awful wrench of having to do anything before the sun comes up. Turns out I suffer from SAD and natural light is very important.

 

[marinyork]

That's a thought. Just do the clocks for that short period around Xmas.

My memory was not of being scared. More of having that awful wrench of having to do anything before the sun comes up. Turns out I suffer from SAD and natural light is very important.

I think a lot of people suffer from SAD, having read the list of symptoms before it sounds very familiar to me. I'd much rather be on a +1, it would lead to such an improvement in quality of life. It's not that I like 'dark mornings' but I think overall we'd be better off on that one.

On the scary thing, don't know why but going to secondary school in the dark wasn't scary, coming home through some estates in the middle of winter was scary, very, very scary - when it goes dark you associate with that with crime, muggings, stabbings and so on. As I've said before I reckon the clincher might be that moving the clocks leads to a reduction in crime and communities reclaiming spaces. I would be so happy if they moved the clocks forward, it would be like the smoking ban, something that some people regard as small but would lead to such a huge improvement in quality of life.

 

[Aperitif]

I suffer from GIT. It comes after SAD

 

[XmisterIS]

I suffer from GIT. It comes after SAD

At what age should one insert the word "old" in the middle?

 

[Aperitif]

At what age should one insert the word "old" in the middle?

Oh, that only applies if you have Optical Luminosity Disturbance. SAD we know. GIT is just Grossly Inaccurate Timekeeping.

 

[HLaB]

Tufty was real. But then they sacked him and brought Darth Vadar in. Health and saftey gawn maad!

I've got Darth's signature, well a little white lie but it sounds better than the Green Cross Code Man :-)

 

[Stephenite]

There are a few of us here on cyclechat that live with CET, or GMT+1. And i can assure you it's not all it's cracked up to be.

 

[Coco]

I've got Darth's signature too - well my son has

 

[soulful dog]

Staying lighter a bit longer in winter would be good, but I don't think there is any sense in it if it means it's still dark up to nearly 10am. As someone else has already said, you can't change the amount of daylight hours, so leave it be.

 

[MacB]

I would quite happily have it dark till mid morning, i'm at work, like a bit more daylight after 5pm so I can get out on the bike or away up into the hills. Hope we do get CET..

What annoys me with the current situation is how long we have to wait to revert back to BST. The clocks are put back about 52 days before the shortest day. 52 days after the shortest day is the 11th Feb. We are stuck with these dark nights till the end of march!

that has always puzzled me a bit

 

[Night Train]

Given the reasons sometimes proffered for extending the daylight into the nightime why not go the whole hog and just shift it right round so that office hours finishes at dawn. Then all the people who work office hours can have all night to enjoy themselves before it gets dark again and it is time to go to work.

Personally I would happily go with a 28 hour day. That works better for my body clock.
It would mean that the week would consist of only 6 days and during the course of the week you will get the full compliment of bright mornings, bright evenings and bright nights. The weekend days could be by arrangement to suite your own preference for light levels so those who like to be out riding can have daylight weekend days while the amature astronomers can have night time weekend days.

 

[Adasta]

Staying lighter a bit longer in winter would be good, but I don't think there is any sense in it if it means it's still dark up to nearly 10am. As someone else has already said, you can't change the amount of daylight hours, so leave it be.

Benefits

 

[soulful dog]

Those benefits just ignore the fact that it'd still be dark from say Newcastle north until 10am and later (how long after sunrise is it really daylight in the winter months?).

So the reduction in road accidents you get from lighter hours in the evenings will be negated by a possible increase in accidents in the mornings. There may well be benefits from it allowing people "more time to exercise and play sport outside in the evening", but this tends to ignore the fact that in the middle of winter it's the weather that often stops peoples leisure pursuits taking place outside.

The current time has pluses and minuses, as do the proposed changes. Why fiddle with it?