Police ask for help to catch driver targeting cyclists...

[Big Nick]

Maybe the cops asked for the clip to be taken down. Maybe the driver did.

Once a suspect is identified all media video and pictures will be withdrawn by the police for legal reasons

 

[glenn forger]

Ah, then it could be good news.

The police treat video clips strangely, I've heard lots of different responses, some deny footage can be accepted, but I've seen one force say it's ok to initially put up footage so long as you don't title the clip OMG, LOOK AT THIS NUTTER!!!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

According to the rider involved, "proceedings have commenced".

GC

 

[sheddy]

I always reckon thatthere is a simple solution to this:

1. So...... you don't know who was driving the vehicle atthe time of the incident
2. So... you cannot thereforeactually prove the vehicle was insured at the time
3. As you cannot prove the vehicle was insured it is perfectly reasonable to assume that it was not isured..... Your car is impounded.
4. Please come come back with proof that the driver at the time of the incident was insured

Then and only then will the car be released.

Hey ! this is is far too good to go to waste - can we all pass it on to CTC, Roadsafe, British Cycling, and the ACPO etc etc

 

[BSRU]

Every situation is different and applying blind prejudice before the case has been finalised is very negative and narrow minded. In my view they are really trying hard to bring this nutter to book by releasing this out to the media etc. You clearly have an axe to grind with Wiltshire Police so it would be more productive to pursue said grievance with whoever dealt with your incident rather than tarring every other officer/ the whole Force with the same brush

Right.

 

[Crankarm]

Big Nick might well be a copper or a civilian working in a police force.

 

[Crankarm]

According to the rider involved, "proceedings have commenced".

GC

Allegedly a number of cyclists have been targeted.

 

[Big Nick]

Big Nick might well be a copper or a civilian working in a police force.

Or he might just be someone who doesn't have a chip on his shoulder about the police

 

[Crankarm]

Or he might just be someone who doesn't have a chip on his shoulder about the police

Or has never had reason to report anything to them that was met with indolence and an unsatisfactory frankly sub standard response.

 

[Big Nick]

Or has never had reason to report anything to them that was met with indolence and an unsatisfactory frankly sub standard response.

Oh grow up, I once had an incompetent dentist drill into a nerve it doesn't mean I think they're all crap, I once reported my mum had had a stroke via 999 and got the run around for 45 minutes before they sent an ambulance doesn't mean the whole of the NHS is crap.....make a complaint at the time then suck it up and move on

 

[glenn forger]

Nick, police failures with regard to cyclists are documented:

http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/sites...CTC Road Justice - the role of the police.pdf

Aiden Forster, Bradford, West Yorkshire,
July 2012
Enthusiastic cyclist Aiden was cycling up a hill when he was hit
from behind by a 4x4 driver. Aiden suffered multiple vertebral
fractures as a result of the collision. He was in hospital for 5
days and off work for 4 months. He could not sit down for
months, which made any form of travel very difficult. Due to
his injuries he has not been able to take care of his two young
children since the incident.
The attending police officer implicitly blamed Aiden for the
incident stating: “you cyclists take your lives into your own
hands”. Despite a number of vehicles present at the scene, the
police did not take any witness statements. The police accepted the driver’s explanation that he had
been ‘dazzled by sunlight’ and therefore hadn’t seen Aiden on the hill, but the police did not analyse
the sun’s position in the sky at the time of the collision to verify this claim or comment that the driver
should have adjusted their speed if they could not see the road ahead of them.

 

[Crankarm]

Nick, police failures with regard to cyclists are documented:

http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/sites/roadjustice.org.uk/files/CTC Road Justice - the role of the police.pdf

Aiden Forster, Bradford, West Yorkshire,
July 2012
Enthusiastic cyclist Aiden was cycling up a hill when he was hit
from behind by a 4x4 driver. Aiden suffered multiple vertebral
fractures as a result of the collision. He was in hospital for 5
days and off work for 4 months. He could not sit down for
months, which made any form of travel very difficult. Due to
his injuries he has not been able to take care of his two young
children since the incident.
The attending police officer implicitly blamed Aiden for the
incident stating: “you cyclists take your lives into your own
hands”. Despite a number of vehicles present at the scene, the
police did not take any witness statements. The police accepted the driver’s explanation that he had
been ‘dazzled by sunlight’ and therefore hadn’t seen Aiden on the hill, but the police did not analyse
the sun’s position in the sky at the time of the collision to verify this claim or comment that the driver
should have adjusted their speed if they could not see the road ahead of them.

Glenn - You won't get through to him. Nick is either a troll or an idiot or both.

 

[Thomk]

Glenn - You won't get through to him. Nick is either a troll or an idiot or both.

That does not seem fair.

 

[Big Nick]

Glenn - You won't get through to him. Nick is either a troll or an idiot or both.

I won't resort to insults as it tends to be an indicator you cannot adequately present your point of view when I feel I can
The issue is Glenn we rarely hear a balanced debate on a subject such as this.
I am not blind to cases of bad practice by the police but I am not naive enough to think those cases define a whole police service.
I also object to a thread that highlights how the police are in fact doing what the likes of Crankarm complains about (trying to obtain justice for cyclists) is turned back around by him to criticise them borne out of him having a very large chip on his shoulder about his perception of an incident he was involved in previously.

It's not a case of 'getting through to me' I have the open mindedness to treat each individual case on its own merits and wait until its conclusion to then draw mine.

 

[gaz]

Hope the camera got his face not just the reg, if not, the cynic in me thinks he'll get of on the old lame excuse 'it wasn't me, it was my mate driving and I'm not obliged to tell you his name' :-(

I've actually had some good results where the owner didn't provide details of the driver. In fact, in some I think the penalty was harsher than if they provided details.

Once a suspect is identified all media video and pictures will be withdrawn by the police for legal reasons

Oh really? what legal reasons would those be. Note that I have had several prosecutions where the videos where in the public domain, commented about on various news sites and the videos where used in court to aid in securing a prosecution. Not once was I asked by the police to remove my footage from the internet for any reason. And they were fully aware of the online video.
I believe it was you the said the below.

Every situation is different and applying blind prejudice before the case has been finalised is very negative and narrow minded...