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Police Campaign on Lights on Bicycles

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by Cab, 1 Nov 2007.

  1. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Location:
    Cambridge
    Front page of the Cambridge Evening News:

    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/city/2007/11/01/553a8bfa-99a7-481a-80cf-f8c3dd5974c8.lpf

    I approve of enforcing this law, but I would maintain that the language and attention from Plod and the local paper is way wide of the mark.

    When you struggle to get local bobbies to do anything about road traffic incidents where you've been hit by a car while cycling in front of witnesses, I can't help but think that prioritising cycle lights is missing the point.
     
  2. John Ponting

    John Ponting Über Member

    Location:
    Herts
    Whilst I sympathise with your views Cab, it is really jyst another example of the easy target.

    We hear constant complaints about the proliferation of speed cameras but nobody seems to object to the decrease in detection of DWDC or DD or DUI since the police (stopped/reduced traffic patrols.

    It's easy to pull a cyclist and warn/book them for no lights but harder to prosecute a no damage/no injury traffic incident.

    I'm not condoning it in any way. I would rather somebody got pulled for DUI and lost their licence than get pulled at 80mph on a 70mph urban freeway at 0300.

    NOTE neither are legal.
     
  3. bobbyp

    bobbyp Senior Member

    And I assume they'll also be cracking down on cars with dodgy headlights? I see at least 3 or 4 cars each evening with only one headlight operational.
     
  4. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Location:
    Cambridge
    I quite agree, cyclists without lights are a 'low hanging fruit' as they say. Easy to target, you can have a press release about how many you stopped, how many fines you got, how many tickets you issued, and then next year with an entirely new population of cyclists on the roads because its a university town you can do the same thing again. And again. And again.

    And at no time will you every achieve anything. But you can have your annual blitz, its good publicity :blush:
     
  5. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Location:
    Cambridge

    So few? I see more than that most evenings :blush:
     
  6. Maz

    Maz Guru

    Easy targets indeed. Isn't that Magdalene St in the 2nd pic?

    Slightly OT, but my bro' got a ticking off from the cops for having lights on his bike with flat batteries, during daylight hours...seems harsh to me, but I don't know what the law says about this.
     
  7. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    I think the key thing to bear in mind is this:
    So, the police have met with local car drivers who have complained about cyclists with no lights. They are now going to crack down on cycling.
     
  8. Jacomus-rides-Gen

    Jacomus-rides-Gen New Member

    Location:
    Guildford / London
    Well, you wouldn't want all those people busy paying for the highways with their outrageously steep road tax to feel they weren't getting value for money would you?
     
  9. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    Location:
    e4
    good, start with the easy to enforce issues and move onto harder to enforce ones, how hard is that

    a cyclist with no lights at night is a serious danger to themselves and others
     
  10. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    Compared to what? An uninsured and drunken motorist driving a dangerously un-roadworthy car or a Toddler wielding a plastic cricket bat?
     
  11. Regulator

    Regulator Egregious Professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography

    This morning I watched as a large dumper truck (of the sort infamous for mowing down cyclists) drove past a police car and through the red traffic lights at which the police car was stopped. What did the police do? Bugger all!

    Place you a fiver if I'd jumped the red light they'd have stopped me....
     
  12. gazzaputt

    gazzaputt New Member

    Location:
    Bexley, Kent
    I don't understand the negative posts here on this.

    It's helping people to help themselves. Sorry but your an idiot riding a bicycle at night with no lights. Why shouldn't the police enforce this?

    In my book it's welcome.
     
  13. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    :blush: :biggrin: Don't mention the plastic cricket bat wielding toddler ! xx( :biggrin:
     
  14. Fab Foodie

    Fab Foodie hanging-on in quiet desperation ...

    Agreed. Get our own house in order, then take and hold the moral high ground (wishful thinking :blush: ).
     
  15. RPM

    RPM Well-Known Member

    we live in a "cars are king" society.
    somewhere along the line, motor vehicles went from being a luxury, to being a god-given right.

    cycles are very much a minority, people who ride them are seen as outsiders. chaotic and lawless, beyond legislation. regardless of how the individual may ride in relation to the laws of the road (predominantly designed for motor vehicles)

    but you all already know this.

    advertising campaigns warning motor vehicle operators to take extra care around vulnerable cyclists? posters asking drivers to look both ways at T junctions?

    yeah right.