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Discussion in 'Commuting' started by cntl, 4 Jan 2008.

  1. cntl

    cntl New Member

    Happened yesterday.
  2. Charlotte_C+ :-)

    Charlotte_C+ :-) New Member

    OMG that was close!:thumbsup:.

    Thats happend to me a few times:blush:, ive got to make myself ride more assertively!
  3. Dont matter where you ride.You will still get dangerous overtaking.
  4. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Sort of, but ride in primary and you'll get an order of magnitude fewer instance of dangerous overtaking.
  5. Well I dont do too bad.So I must be doing something right.
  6. Cab

    Cab New Member

    Try riding in primary. Compare how close you're overtaken in primary, secondary and when you're on the kerb.
  7. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran

    I agree with cab more or less, even a strong secondary makes a huge difference

    leave yourself nothing and they squeeze you, take a strong line and they respect it, generally, and you always have some space in hand if you need it

    I'm riding with a pannier on the outside and the nightvision top and it's really made a huge difference to the space I'm given, people seem far more reluctant to pass now, I've had more people follow me on narrow stretches or approaching pinches in the last three months than in the last three years

    just seen the vid, that's defo a primary for the duration of that bridge, I wouldn't dream of doing it any other way, it's dangerous and then some to try and do that in secondary, oof

    I mounted the smart light to the outside corner of the rack, to add some width, I imagine it lights up the shape of the pannier as well as the reflective strip
  8. magnatom

    magnatom Guest

    Very scary overtake. Report him!

    The primary would have been very effective here. The truck would have had to cross the lane into oncoming traffic if the cyclist was in primary. The overtake just wouldn't have happened.
  9. Crackle

    Crackle Squatter

    Position almost shouldn't matter there. As a car driver I would not have overtaken a cyclist, no matter where they were on that bridge.

    That was just plain bad driving!
  10. Tynan

    Tynan Veteran


    indeed but that's exactly why positioning is essential there I suggest, plenty of others will, or try to rush it as that bloke did
  11. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Moderator

    riding too near the curb makes cagers think they can just breeze past. riding in primary position makes them calculate things like road space, closing speed etc. they might still sound the horn, but **** them. if i don't think there's enough space for a safe overtake i'll assume primary position until i think it's safe, and then i'll move over (there's a stretch on my commute where queuing traffic on the other side of the road makes a safe overtake impossible).

    don't put their convenience over your own safety.
  12. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    South Manchester
    That's just like what happened to me, the only time I didn't take primary at a particular stretch of road - blooming idiots those van drivers.....
  13. neslon

    neslon Well-Known Member

    The Toon
    If you give them enough room to squeeze past, thats what they will do. Don't do it! I think it was Mikey who said 'I am traffic'. Thats the attitude in these situations.
  14. Crackle

    Crackle Squatter

    I must also say cntl, I'd have been checking over my shoulder there. Is your cam helmet mounted or handlebar or had you already checked before the start of the clip?
  15. OP

    cntl New Member

    >>Is your cam helmet mounted or handlebar or had you already checked
    >>before the start of the clip?

    The camera is helmet mounted. I have a mirror which I use pretty much all the time and thus I knew he was coming. That's why I went back to the cerb when I saw him overtake me-at that stage it was too late to take the primary. It is my "fault" in the sense that I should have taken the primary early. It is a valuable lesson for me.
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