Question [poll] about independence for the Scots
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Ganymede
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I was having lunch with a Scottish friend - a woman of some intellect - who said she was going to vote no until Cameron started throwing his weight around, then she thought "F*** him the slimy Etonian t*sser" and decided to "vote with her heart rather than her head", ie change to yes. I asked her if she was happy to be casting so significant a vote on emotional rather than intellectual grounds and she basically was. I told her that anything that smacked of Balkanisation scared the shot out of me and she agreed. But she still has the independence "feeling".
I really hope it's a narrow "No" so that things change and the British government gets a kick up the arris, but this isn't the General Election and it makes me feel sick and worried that voters are essentially using the referendum to express their disapproval of Call Me Dave and his discredited fags.
I really hope it's a narrow "No" so that things change and the British government gets a kick up the arris, but this isn't the General Election and it makes me feel sick and worried that voters are essentially using the referendum to express their disapproval of Call Me Dave and his discredited fags.
glenn forger
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"F*** him the slimy Etonian t*sser"
Good point well made.
Good point well made.
Ganymede
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Absolutely, I don't disagree with her at all on that one. But that ain't the issue.
In a way, it is, inasmuch as Cameron stands in for the class in whose interests the UK has been, and continues to be, shaped.
growingvegetables
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jay clock
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What is interesting is that the NO campaign seems to have a undercurrent of "vote with your head not your heart" but there are not any small countries in Europe or indeed outside who are proposing to merge into a neighbour because it makes "head"sense
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User33236
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Would have been a landslide YES vote had the referendum taken place when the Iron Lady was in power
i thought 300 hundred years ago or so the Scots joined into a union because they needed the support of England to keep them from going broke . it is intresting that they remember all the fights they lost against us but forget all the good they have got from us . i do hope that if they do leave that the rest of the uk will put a ban on them coming back in .
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User33236
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I can feel a variant on the 'what did the Romans do for us?' Python sketch coming on lol.
Ganymede
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Bobby Mhor
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This song lyrics tell the story why it happened 300 years ago...
Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame,
Fareweel our ancient glory;
Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name,
Sae fam'd in martial story.
Now Sark rins over Solway sands,
An' Tweed rins to the ocean,
To mark where England's province stands-
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
What force or guile could not subdue,
Thro' many warlike ages,
Is wrought now by a coward few,
For hireling traitor's wages.
The English steel we could disdain,
Secure in valour's station;
But English gold has been our bane -
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
O would, ere I had seen the day
That Treason thus could sell us,
My auld grey head had lien in clay,
Wi' Bruce and loyal Wallace!
But pith and power, till my last hour,
I'll mak this declaration;
We're bought and sold for English gold-
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
Drago
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Is that any worse than English people temporarily resident there being permitted to vote?
And I'm not absentee.in the sense that I've emigrated to England, cut My ties never to return. I'm here because of work, and I'll be back in 8 years when I retire, or sooner if I can get it on with Police Scotland.
I'm not a wealthy absentee landlord who's made a packet and f****d off to the sun. I'm a normal Joe who's house is still there, and is insulting that I'm excluded from having a say in my countries future.
Gonna laugh my thruppenies off if there's a yes vote cos us Northern islanders are gonna go our own way and take OUR oil with us and see how far Salmond gets without it. We'd rather be part of the UK, or even a Norwegian protectorate than Scottish, and its.comments like that from wannabe Scottish imperialists that are going to make it happen.
RedRider
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0% Scottish but I do own a copy of Sunshine on Leith.
You don't get a vote by being on holiday on Skye. "Resident" for election purposes means that you live there, which makes decisions regarding the country more important for you than for an absentee landlord in England with a vague sense of attachment to his second home. I'm afraid people with two homes are wealthy by definition, sun or no sun. Hopefully the new independent Scotland will tax second-home owners out of existence so that there's somewhere left for the locals to live.
