Questions you'd like answering, regardless of how trivial they may seem

[AndyRM]

In the rain yesterday, I turned a corner, guessing c12mph. As I straightened up back wheel went over a manhole cover and back wheel lost traction. Whole bike wobbled for about 1s. All good as recovered quickly. Is it anything I actually did or was momentum enough to keep me upright? Or is it purely luck and circumstances outside of the rider's control as to whether they stay upright?

That's called skill and/or styling it out.

 

[markemark]

That's called skill and/or styling it out.

Yeah, I know.

But actually....?

 

[AndyRM]

Yeah, I know.

But actually....?

Probably a combination of momentum and tiny reactive adjustments you didn't even realise you were making?

 

[Binky]

To stick with the thread title...

"Why do people think that the way rugby is refereed would work for football?"

Referees in rugby far less tolerant and rightly so of dissent. The way footballers literally scream in the face of refs is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed but somehow it is

Of course in rugby you hear players complaining but it's a million miles from nonsense which is common place in football.

 

[AndyRM]

Referees in rugby far less tolerant and rightly so of dissent. The way footballers literally scream in the face of refs is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed but somehow it is

Of course in rugby you hear players complaining but it's a million miles from nonsense which is common place in football.

I'm aware.

That wasn't my question though.

 

[Binky]

I'm aware.

That wasn't my question though.

There's absolutely no reason why football couldn't be refereed the same regards attitude etc to refs.
The laws are there but not enforced.
If refs yellow cared then red carded players it would change attitude but that's never happened.
Lack of respect from players and coaches, clubs etc

Laughable when you consider Respect is supposedly the mantra.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

I'd be happy to see yellow cards get ~5min since bin in football (no idea what sin bin duration is in rugby).

 

[Ming the Merciless]

In the rain yesterday, I turned a corner, guessing c12mph. As I straightened up back wheel went over a manhole cover and back wheel lost traction. Whole bike wobbled for about 1s. All good as recovered quickly. Is it anything I actually did or was momentum enough to keep me upright? Or is it purely luck and circumstances outside of the rider's control as to whether they stay upright?

Skill would have been avoiding the cover to start with. Mostly luck with a bit of not panicking when it happened.

 

[AndyRM]

I'd be happy to see yellow cards get ~5min since bin in football (no idea what sin bin duration is in rugby).

10 mins.

They floated the idea with Blue Cards in football, it's being tested.

 

[AndyRM]

There's absolutely no reason why football couldn't be refereed the same regards attitude etc to refs.
The laws are there but not enforced.
If refs yellow cared then red carded players it would change attitude but that's never happened.
Lack of respect from players and coaches, clubs etc

Laughable when you consider Respect is supposedly the mantra.

It isn't. It's a campaign that isn't properly supported, and that's why it's going nowhere.

 

[Alex321]

Rugby refereeing standards aren't applied to any other sports as far as I'm aware, so why think that they could work for football?

I think they are applied in most other team sports - hockey, cricket, American Football, Baseball, etc. etc.

Crowding round the officials showing significant dissent just isn't tolerated in any sport I'm aware of apart from football.

It's a myth that rugby players aren't at the ref all the time in any case. Sure, they get clamped down quicker and don't crowd round the ref, but they're at it in their own way.

They are generally much more respectful. Partly because they know that anything out of order means changing a scrum to a penalty, moving a penalty 10 yards down field, or even getting a yellow or red card.

Football referees have the power to give cards for dissent, but hardly ever do so.

 

[Binky]

Football referees have the power to give cards for dissent, but hardly ever do so.

Yep exactly what I wrote at 14:03. Football refs could issue cards for dissent but very rarely see it. Nigel Owens always said he'd love to ref a Premier league game and see the response! I'd think each team be down to about 4 players before it was abandoned.

 

[dicko]

Why do some people load the supermarket trolley with pack upon pack of water in bottles, don’t they have a tap? This is seen on a weekly basis where we live in Derby.

 

[AndyRM]

Yep exactly what I wrote at 14:03. Football refs could issue cards for dissent but very rarely see it. Nigel Owens always said he'd love to ref a Premier league game and see the response! I'd think each team be down to about 4 players before it was abandoned.

A football match gets abandoned when a team is down to 6 players.

 

[Binky]

A football match gets abandoned when a team is down to 6 players.

I was being flippant obviously. Well I say obviously, it apparently wasn't.