Rob3rt
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Road races will in some cases have a lead car and a broom wagon bringing up the rear.
Which is why i chose to ignore the 'blame game' comments, maybe you should too? As for organisation of these events, i stand by my post, as a sport we should be lobbying for better safety procedures and policing from local authorities.....(take a look at how your local marathon/half marathon is organised and policed as an amateur event)
Cyclists die. It's a fact. That some cyclists on this thread are trying to make a point that other cyclists are in some way to blame just because they are taking part in the form of cycling which they prefer is very sad. You really need to grow the feck up. And stop being an arse.
I understand what you're saying Noodley, but aren't people trying to find ways that the form of cycling they prefer can be made safer? Cyclists dying might be a fact, but fewer cyclists dying could be an aspiration? Or are you saying anyone who thinks that is an arse?
Not necessarily. You can have dual carriageways with only one lane of traffic running in each direction. Dual carriageway just means that opposing flows of traffic are separated by a physical barrier of some type.
"DC" = Dual Carriageway
The things I said cannot possibly happen on a dual carriageway because the riders are going out and back on a straight, flat piece of road with good sight lines. That was the point of my post: people talk up the dangers of racing on DCs but they forget that racing on SCs and minor roads has a whole different set of dangers, such as cutting corners at the bottom of hills etc.
I don't know anything about TTing. so, How do riders start off? Actually on the DC? Or feeding in from the side? Either way seems to have potential for danger to me.
Seems to me that racing in any form implies that competitors' prime consideration is going as fast as possible, potentially over caution. We'd condemn drivers for racing on an open road, even if they were racing only up to the speed limit.
I know drivers have a duty of care and all that, but if the A63 is anything like the A64 (and it sounds it from the description), then cycling on it is nuts, and organising a race on it, even more so.
Cycle competitions on public highways are covered by specific legislation dealing with both time trials and 'mass start' road racing.I don't know anything about TTing. so, How do riders start off? Actually on the DC? Or feeding in from the side? Either way seems to have potential for danger to me.
Seems to me that racing in any form implies that competitors' prime consideration is going as fast as possible, potentially over caution. We'd condemn drivers for racing on an open road, even if they were racing only up to the speed limit.
The bit that doesn't sit right with me is people's attitude to cycling / TT's on dual carriageways.
A dual carriageway by the very virtue of it's name tells me there's NO oncoming traffic AND a WHOLE LANE to move over into to overtake.
Couple that with the legally-required signage to run such an event, and there's ZERO reason IMO for a vehicle driver to not be aware of the presence of cyclists, and ABSOLUTELY ZERO reason to hit and kill one.
Just where the F**K are these people looking when they're driving!!!!!!!
Not in my experience. Very few riders seem to run rear lights on the TTs I've been to. Yes, those who have rear lights have good ones. However, the vast majority of the field don't run a rear light.You're talking rubbish. Bright rear lights are extremely popular in TTing. The current favourite is the Exposure Flare, then probably the Lezyne Micro Drive. Browse timetriallingforum.co.uk to see discussion of rear lights passim.