rear Shimano WH-RS100 drive side spoke broke, causes?

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Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
A spoke broke on my Shimano WH-RS100 rear wheel, drive side, about two inches from hub. , , , am just concerned there's something more fundamentally wrong. Or is it just something that happens after a while?
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Spoke failure is not infectious between wheels! The other one you've fitted will hang :rolleyes: on its own spokes.
https://bike.shimano.com/products/components/pdp.P-WH-RS100-CL-R.html
This wheel has 24 plain gauge spokes.
You describe the spoke as having failed 2" from the hub. This is unusual: these spokes normally fail through fatigue after millions of revolutions, if ever - at the (work hardened) bend by the hub flange.
I recommend you remove the cassette and carefully inspect (feel) the remaining right hand side spokes. I suspect your spoke parted where it had been damaged by a chain overshifting inside the large sprocket. I cannot think of another reason for a spoke parting there (part way up its length). Report back.
Anecdotally, I recently went to my LBS to retrue a wheel on their jig and during that a spoke parted on a tensioning twist of my spoke key. I had damaged half the spokes (either the trailing or the leading 8) in the manner described above (but do not remember ever doing so). I bought 8 spokes and replaced/relaced the lot.
 
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You describe the spoke as having failed 2" from the hub. This is unusual: these spokes normally fail through fatigue after millions of revolutions, if ever - at the (work hardened) bend by the hub flange.
I recommend you remove the cassette and carefully inspect (feel) the remaining right hand side spokes. I suspect your spoke parted where it had been damaged by a chain overshifting inside the large sprocket. I cannot think of another reason for a spoke parting there (part way up its length). Report back.

There is some damage on a number of the spokes from the chain coming off of the cassette and going in-between the cassette and the spokes. Some grazing as it were. It's not too significant. And that grazing is only about 1-2cm from the spoke ends. There's no other apparent chain damage anywhere else on the spokes, none around the break. The point where the spoke is broken is definitely quite a bit further out than the largest cassette cog. I've just measured the broken spoke, the break is actually 3 inches from where the spoke attaches to the hub. And the spoke which has broken has no damage on it from the chain coming off the cassette as it is one of the spokes coming from the other side of the hub rim so is protected from the chain by the other spoke just near it. The rest of the spokes' tightness feel basically fine, nothing clearly wrong. Thanks.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Shoot happens, things break sometimes. Have a poke about on SJS Cycles or SPA cycles for RS10 spokes. Remember, rear spokes come in two sizes for drive and non-drive side due to differing length due to dishing.

If you don't know what you are doing, the LBS charge is very reasonable. Even truing a wheel is a bit of an art, because if you aren't following the 'rules' you'll end up with a laterally straight wheel, but shaped like an egg. It's well worth learning if you plan on getting loads of bikes and wheels and stuff.

I've 5 bikes and 10 wheelsets - 5 on a bike and 4 that are swappable ready to go for different use. Both MTB's have separate wheelsets, the CX (cyclocross bike) actually has three sets, road, off road and a spare set. The two vintage bikes roll on the wheels they have, but there is a set of old carbon TT wheels hanging about that are never used.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I've been remarkably lucky with spokes, despite being a bat fastard. I've had one (hand built) wheel that broke a spoke - I just opened the rear brake caliper and rode carefully to the nearest station. So I had it replaced by the LBS and a few months later another spoke went in the same wheel, fortunately almost at the end of a very long ride with hardly any bail out points. I got that replaced but the wheel has been hanging in my garage since. Was that due the fault of the original wheel builder, or the LBS, the choice of materials or just dumb luck. No idea.

Apart from that one wheel I've had no problems, despite my 90kg+ weight.

That's why I've never bothered investing time in learning the black art of wheel truing. Maybe when I retire I'll find time to learn how to build a wheel for the fun of it.
 
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