Recent trip to Tuscany, near Lucca

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Dan Lotus

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Afternoon all,

I'm recently back from a nearly two week house sitting staying in a little town called Santa Maria del Giudice.

Our friends have moved back to the area, after having lived there for a number of years some ~17 years ago, and we house sat for them then too.

The road up to their house, and then the drive down to their house was narrow, and very steep, the signs said 20%, but on my one ride up, strava called out some of it as 27 & 28% and I can well believe it.

Although we had ridden there some 15 years ago, we were both very green roadies at the time, and didn't experiment with different routes at all really, so just headed out to the coast and back, which was lovely, but I realise now we missed a huge amount.

I found a couple of very useful and recent vids on youtube, which I used to crib some routes and climbs out of:
Top 5 Lucca climbs
5 more climbs, so presumably 6-10....?

It was a family holiday, so I didn't get that much time on the bike, but managed 3 rides.

Two stand out, one recommended to by a Strava follower who had been in the area just weeks before - this involved ascending Monte Serra - this one I carried out with my partner, who struggled a lot at first (The climb was hard to start with, and the heat was high) but she kept on pushing, and we managed to get right to the top, the descent (Not back the way we came up) was pretty good too. I managed to find some free parking in basically a big layby too.
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The next one I did solo, and was when the rest of the party wanted a beach day, so I drove them down there, and then having again sussed out some free parking, drove there to unload the bike.
I had a bit of flattish type terrain to warm up, but pretty soon we were into the ~16km climb, this one started easier (50% of the elevation was covered in the first 10km) and ramped up as you can imagine, in the last 6km.

I was a little concerned seeing riders coming down with jackets on, and indeed it was colder at the top, and it was a bit bracing at the beginning of the descent, but once I had descended a bit, the temperature picked up, and all was fine - I think a wind blocker gilet would do the trick for the future.

The descent at the top was steeper, and a rougher road surface (zero issue on the way up of course) so wasn't incredibly enjoyable, plus I was riding a rim brake bike, so stopped a couple of times to check the rim temp, more out of curiosity than anything else, and did find the exalith rims to be fairly warm, not sure if they would dissipate heat better or worse than conventional allow rims though.

Once I was down far enough, and onto the slightly less percentage roads, the tarmac quality improved as well, and the las 10k or so, were an absolute delight - managed to keep up with a Dacia probably for the last 6km as well - no big long straights to really get the speed up, so checked latterly and saw I topped out at 63.9kmh.

I didn't take my best bike with disc brakes, for a couple of reasons. Firstly we had 3 overnight stops in total, where the bikes were left in the van - the van admittedly does have factory tinted windows, and they were covered as much as they could be with a dark double sheet, but I would have been gutted if the best bike had been stolen - still wouldn't have been happy to see this bike go, but it would have been more bearable.
Additionally I thought rubs/scrapes could well happen in transit - I had 3 bikes in the van, all pretty secure, but also lashed to each other, and meshed together if that makes sense - trying to get the bits of frame protected, and pedals in the exact right position is always a game with these things.

It would be preferable to have disc brakes for the ascent admittedly, and that bike is slightly lighter than this one too.
My CR1 also has a bottom gear of 36/28, which was a bit of a challenge up some of the climbs (Though I am happy with a low cadence), a 36/34 would definitely have given me a lot more room for manoeuvre, though good to know being heavier than I should be, and not that fit, it was at least achievable on that gearing.

On the day I did this ride, I wrongly thought the beach trip the rest of the party were on was ending mid afternoon, but they actually ended up staying there until past sunset, so what I would do in the future would have been to have dropped them off, ridden one climb, return home to shower and eat, then head out for one or two additional climbs, before going to meet them for dinner etc.

Riding on Italian roads:
There are cyclists EVERYWHERE, it's brilliant, and although the motorists in general pass closer than they do here, I saw zero animosity, no horn beeps, or overly close passes. It just seems to be the norm, and cyclists and motorists co-exist happily it would seem to me.

In summary, if you are thinking about heading down that way for a cycling holiday, or a holiday with some cycling thrown in, I would not hesitate.

I'm desperately hoping for an invite back next year so I can especially have a proper go at that first climb, and explore some new climbs by driving there first.

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P.S Bike does need new bar tape - I fitted newish 25mm (Absolute max that the rear can take) GP5000s just prior to going out, but bottled it and went for butyl rather than TPU tubes because of the rim heat on descents.

If I took the CR1 again, I'm not sure if I would stick with it as is, or attempt to put a bigger cassette on the rear - iirc it is a short cage 6800 on there, so I think I'd be technically limited to a 30, and am not sure it is worth it. If I could get lighter, stronger or both that would solve the issue!

As another aside, we did also drive to Siena one day, and experienced HEAVY thunderstorms/lightning and torrential rain on the way there, by the time we had parked up it was simply raining, but still very warm of course, and once we had finished lunch it was dry and sunny.
Siena is stunning, and as a fan of Strade Bianche to see it up close and personal is up there with walking the streets of Monaco as an F1 fan.
 
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Animo

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Sounds great Dan.

We were down in Siena and Montalcino last year. Cool place to ride a bike.

Agree on the drivers over there - they don't mess about in getting past but never felt particularly unsafe.
 
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Dan Lotus

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Very nice indeed, did you hire or bring them with you?

Forgot to mention we also hired one of the Lucca rickshaws that you can pedal with 4 people, and took it up and around the walls on 2 successive nights, by daughter absolutely loved it - we went non electric of course, and it was a decent workout for sure.

Ice cream over there was also sublime, my favourite flavour was one called Jennifer Lopez, really tasty - sadly on my return visit it has sold out :-(


"When sweetness meets music, something special is born. And this time, the combination of flavors and entertainment has the face and energy of Jennifer Lopez. In view of the highly anticipated concert on July 21 at the Lucca Summer Festival, the only Italian stop, the ice cream shop "I gelati di Piero" in via Roma, in the heart of Lucca, is launching an exclusive flavor inspired by the American pop star: a tasty, vibrant tribute and – like J.Lo herself – "absolutely unforgettable". After the ice creams dedicated to Giacomo Puccini, Bob Dylan and Dusti Hoffman, the master ice cream maker Piero Pacini from Lucca – owner of a family ice cream shop that recently celebrated 70 years of business – is once again surprising his customers with a new creation dedicated to the queen of Latin pop. "It's our way of welcoming Jennifer Lopez and paying another great tribute to the Lucca Summer Festival," Pacini told Adnkronos. "We wanted to create a new flavor that leaves its mark, just like her, a great star." And the result is explosive: dark chocolate, coffee, stracciatella and a sprinkling of crunchy crumble to make the ice cream 'brilliant'. A powerful, overwhelming mix that recalls the vitality and determination of the singer, actress and entrepreneur who conquered the world. "Jennifer Lopez is exceptional," Pacini emphasizes, "and we wanted to pay homage to her in our business with a flavor dedicated to her. We are proud that she chose Lucca to perform and who knows if I will be able to pay homage to her in person by giving her my ice cream, or rather hers." The new flavor is available in the ice cream shop on Via Roma, in the center of Lucca, and will remain on display throughout the month of July, accompanying the wait - and then the echo - of a concert that promises to be extraordinary. "Not only is Jennifer Lopez's ice cream already in great demand in stores, but I'm receiving dozens of phone calls asking how to buy it," says Piero Pacini. (by Paolo Martini)"
 
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roubaixtuesday

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Very cool, and fully agree re drivers - you just don't get the rage/antagonism that is prevalent in the UK. Rim brakes are absolutely fine for such riding. Plenty more to go at for next time!
 

Animo

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Very nice indeed, did you hire or bring them with you?

Forgot to mention we also hired one of the Lucca rickshaws that you can pedal with 4 people, and took it up and around the walls on 2 successive nights, by daughter absolutely loved it - we went non electric of course, and it was a decent workout for sure.

Ice cream over there was also sublime, my favourite flavour was one called Jennifer Lopez, really tasty - sadly on my return visit it has sold out :-(

Took a bike with 38mm gravel tyres which were pretty good for a mix of roads and strada bianche. The Mrs hired an Ebike to come with me for a few rides.

What flavour is Jennifer?
 
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Dan Lotus

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Very cool, and fully agree re drivers - you just don't get the rage/antagonism that is prevalent in the UK. Rim brakes are absolutely fine for such riding. Plenty more to go at for next time!
Agreed, totally absent, and there were some busy and fast roads involved. They don't wait for a totally clear bit coming the other way, as in they are recommended to here, but somehow it always felt safe, and I soon got used to it - the only time it felt a little iffy was when a massive HGV took a while to pass etc, but even then.
Took a bike with 38mm gravel tyres which were pretty good for a mix of roads and strada bianche. The Mrs hired an Ebike to come with me for a few rides.

What flavour is Jennifer?
Ah nice, I did consider taking my 40mm adorned gravel bike, which has a 31/34 bottom gear, but thought I would prefer the road riding, and was better placed for it as well - where you were I'm sure the white roads were much more accessible.
My partner took her gravel bike as it happened, but I think where we were based from she would have been better off with a roadie.
We also took my daughters gorgeous 44cm Bianchi, that I have changed parts on so she has a 34/36 bottom gear, but she didn't end up riding it at all :cry:
We'll try again next time.

Jennifer was really dark chocolate and coffee, with proper thick chocolate flakes included - not that sweet either, but very rich, luxurious and flavoursome.
She played there not long before we arrived I think - they have what might be considered a decent roster of acts each summer, would like to try and catch an act or two there in the future if dates align.
 
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Animo

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Shame the Bianchi never got a ride out. The Bianchi hardtail MTB Ebike my wife hired annoyingly got loads more attention from the locals than my (in my opinion) cool steel gravel bike.
 
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