Recommendations for chainsaw, budget around £200

[graham bowers]

A couple more responses (there have been dozens, none of which support the original claim here):
So we can be pretty sure that the original claim:
is just flat out wrong (in the context of home machinery for DIY).

Oh dear, you have pedantically cherry picked a single sentence in an attempt save your face. Yep, admit, that sentence should have been extended to include the non applicability to pre-directive machinery, but hey ho, its a cycling forum and I dealt with that elsewhere in a sentence you chose not to quote.

 

[MikeG]

Oh dear, you have pedantically cherry picked a single sentence in an attempt save your face. Yep, admit, that sentence should have been extended to include the non applicability to pre-directive machinery, but hey ho, its a cycling forum and I dealt with that elsewhere in a sentence you chose not to quote.

I'm sorry. Save my face? You'll have to demonstrate that I said something incorrect before you can make that claim. Please, feel free to quote away, and explain what I got wrong.

Oh, and you still don't get it. Current modern (post directive) machinery in a domestic DIY environment doesn't have to meet any standards at all.

 

[graham bowers]

well, to the op @Oldbloke , if you want info on chainsaws, best ask in chainsaw forum ;-))

 

[classic33]

Try the Farming Forum

 

[Heltor Chasca]

I would like to know how this thread has seemingly transplanted itself from the CTC (CUK) Forum*? Is that even possible?

*Best place on the internet for blokes to hang out and argue on the Internet. I’d give it 5 stars.

 

[graham bowers]

I'm sorry. Save my face? You'll have to demonstrate that I said something incorrect before you can make that claim. Please, feel free to quote away, and explain what I got wrong.

Oh, and you still don't get it. Current modern (post directive) machinery in a domestic DIY environment doesn't have to meet any standards at all.

Its all that stuff about post directive machinery not having to be compliant with the machinery directive in DIY contexts. I can see you are now entrenched in believing your own misinformation and possibly that of others, so I think we shall have do agree to disagree on that.

 

[MikeG]

We could agree to disagree, or you could counter the points raised against your argument and back your own up.

 

[graham bowers]

OK, lets clarify what is moot. Fundamentally, where we appear to differ, is that I believe that post directive machinery used in a non professional context is still in scope, and you do not. Is that a fair summary?

 

[Pale Rider]

@graham bowers is correct. Directive 2006/42/EC - the new machinery directive - applies to specified machinery in both work and domestic settings (unless they are covered by other Directives). This is made clear, for example, in paragraph 15 of the preamble to the Directive.

This means the Directive applies to machinery used for DIY.

Eighty pages of impenetrable prose, and that's just the preamble to some directive or other?

First thing the OP should do with his new chainsaw is chop up anything with 'EU' written on it.

No wonder the country wants out.

 

[graham bowers]

@graham bowers is correct. Directive 2006/42/EC - the new machinery directive - applies to specified machinery in both work and domestic settings (unless they are covered by other Directives). This is made clear, for example, in paragraph 15 of the preamble to the Directive.

This means the Directive applies to machinery used for DIY.

@User Its also dealt with more fully in the guidance to the NMD. Pages 22 / 23.

http://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/24722

 

[Pale Rider]

The 'Inchoate Rants about the EU' thread is in 'News & Current Affairs'...

But the permanently po-faced are welcome everywhere.

Cheer up, Brexit is the new Godwin's Law on the internet.

I was going to say 'back to chainsaws', but the discussion on those stopped a long time ago.

 

[graham bowers]

Eighty pages of impenetrable prose, and that's just the preamble to some directive or other?

First thing the OP should do with his new chainsaw is chop up anything with 'EU' written on it.

No wonder the country wants out.

Could be worse @Pale Rider , the guidance document is over 400 pages....... ;-)

 

[MikeG]

OK, lets clarify what is moot. Fundamentally, where we appear to differ, is that I believe that post directive machinery used in a non professional context is still in scope, and you do not. Is that a fair summary?

Pretty much, given that you now accept your more extensive original claim was erroneous. I did say "DIY/ domestic situation", rather than "non-professional" (which would allow voluntary groups, charities, and so on into the argument. I don't believe that is your intention).

 

[Andrew_P]

Ok with all the helpful advice I am just off out to do my kindling, do you think chainsaws are like big cars?

 

[graham bowers]

Ok with all the helpful advice I am just off out to do my kindling, do you think chainsaws are like big cars?

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Wow, that is a beast!