Remember this fellow, well he got a telling off.

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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

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Nice response from the company. I'm surprised you complained though :wacko:
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adamangler

Veteran
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Wakefield
Looks like he was almost up to you when you signalled, there was room so he nipped through...other option would have been for him to slam on and let you thru, possibly causing a bigger problem to everyone behind. I think his decision was the correct one in the circumstances ie: cyclists positioning.. A polite word with the driver would have sufficed or just call him a knob, but getting him into bother at work? nah, dont agree with that, way OTT
 
I must admit of late I tend to negotiate a roundabout like the OP cyclist and if I haven't filtered out in time, occasionally a driver dive through as long as you are aware it isn't really a problem a hook or a dodgy pull out is worse IMO if you are too close to the edge of the rbt.
 

boydj

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Paisley
When you've taken the inside line on a roundabout to go past a couple of exits, then getting back to the outside for your own exit always leaves you vulnerable to cars heading for the same exit - even when you signal in plenty of time. In this case it looks like the OP signalled as soon as passed the last exit and the driver was just too impatient to allow him the room to move over.
 

aces_up1504

Well-Known Member
I know as a cyclist you are a lot more exposed and a collision can have damaging effects. But car drivers are subject to horrendous driving by others and I am sure all car drivers can recount countless tales were they have avoided potentially fatal situations.

But dont feel the need to inform the police every time some one cuts me up, pulls out on me, a car undertakes someone or sits in the middle lane of a motorway or a 100 other situations which may cause a crash.

So why as cyclists do we feel the need? people make mistakes, take potentially unsafe driving choices, it impossible to cycle or drive risk free.
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

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I know as a cyclist you are a lot more exposed and a collision can have damaging effects. But car drivers are subject to horrendous driving by others and I am sure all car drivers can recount countless tales were they have avoided potentially fatal situations.

But dont feel the need to inform the police every time some one cuts me up, pulls out on me, a car undertakes someone or sits in the middle lane of a motorway or a 100 other situations which may cause a crash.

So why as cyclists do we feel the need?
I would suspect its down to the fact if two cars fu-ck up its most of the time ok as their metal cage around them will protect them. With cyclist its end up with the cyclist dead. Also car drivers do report this type of driving you just failed to be aware of it, just because you fail to be aware of this does not mean its not true. Just because you cant see the people behind you when your looking forward does not mean there is no one there. in addition its a tactic which is effective at stopping an incident occurring or occurring again. Most people dont learn unless they are told by someone of a higher authority than them and or the others around them.
 

snorri

Legendary Member
So why as cyclists do we feel the need?
The first sentence of your own post explains why. Cyclists and pedestrians are officially recognised as being vulnerable road users, unfortunately some motor vehicle drivers do not recognise this vulnerability.
As a car driver I cannot recall countless tales of avoiding life threatening incidents, as you suggest.
 

aces_up1504

Well-Known Member
Can I ask why the the corsa driver is considered a tosser and the cyclist is not regarding the chevrons?
 
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As a car driver I cannot recall countless tales of avoiding life threatening incidents, as you suggest.

That's probably because you avoided them as a matter of course. We all avoid hundreds, if not thousands, of life threatening incidents every day but it doesn't mean they are anything but part and parcel of daily life. Just putting your pants on in the morning is pretty risky, there are frequently published H&S statistics that prove this to be so!
 

Crankarm

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Nr Cambridge
I don't think Cycling Dan has much going on his life or passing across his desk to spend time making a complaint about such a non event. The fact that his complaint has caused a local authority licensing dept to waste time and money investigating and producing a response is dreadful waste of resources. As others have suggested his road positioning is at best ambiguous causing confusion for other road users around him.
 

adamangler

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Location
Wakefield
Incidents happen all day long every day, everyone behind a wheel makes mistakes as im sure every cyclist will do at some point.
I drive for a living and theres times when ive just had to hold my hands up and apologise to someone that i have nearly cut up because i couldnt see them in my blindspot or ive pulled out on. I make mistakes occasionally, hardly a day goes by when im not calling someone a tosser for doing something silly, but theres really no need to go out of your way to report every minor non event.

Also a lot has to do with attitude, if i pulled out on someone by accident i would apologise, flash my lights etc. And likewise if someone did something to me and waved a hand in apology or mouthed sorry, i would probably wave back in thanks.

However if someone came beeping at me, screaming or giving hand signals im going to bite back, thats just how it is.

I think a lot can be solved by people having a bit more regard for others and realising mistakes can and will happen, reporting people to their workplace or authorities for minor annoyances is disgusting imo and it just wastes everyones time, its just not the way i was taught to do things.
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

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Can I ask why the the corsa driver is considered a tosser and the cyclist is not regarding the chevrons?
Its broken lines chevrons so you can enter when its safe to do so. I did regard them, i thought it safe to enter and did so. Unless you can spot something which made it unsafe to enter?
 
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Cycling Dan

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Whilst you left it a bit late in changing lanes and I can see why some people might call it a non event. At the end of the day the driver is a professional so should know better.

What is good is that the licensing authority took the complaint seriously. And some of the comments on this thread about you having nothing going on in your life for you to report this are a touch much, but I forget this is 'CC commuting'.:rolleyes:
at the end of the day, if they didnt agree with me i would have not got the result i got.
In addition i didn't note this down but no one has notice.
His brake light was out.... not something i would report but the guy at the council was not to happy about as it broke a strict T&C that they have. Nice to one noticed though.
 
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