Respect for the Fallen.

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steveindenmark

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Being in Denmark they do not sell poppies. But every commonweath grave

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has a poppy and a cross. At the moment they are all decorated with crosses, lights and decorated for Christmas.

They are very well looked after.
 
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Today is the 109th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme. Please spare a moments thought for those on both sides, who took part in that horrendous slaughter! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-36610675 Yes, I know the town of Accrington and it's surrounding smaller towns were one of many who called up many men who died that day, but it's a name many associate with that terrible day and its following days!

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gbb

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Today is the 109th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme. Please spare a moments thought for those on both sides, who took part in that horrendous slaughter! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-36610675 Yes, I know the town of Accrington and it's surrounding smaller towns were one of many who called up many men who died that day, but it's a name many associate with that terrible day and its following days!

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Grandad certainly fought in Gallipoli and was gassed in a later battle, never actually knew if it was the Somme, Ypres or any other...
I've never worn a poppy, partly because I'm a very casual kind of dresser and never really had anywhere to place it (buttonholes etc) Always donate, always respected what they went through.
I always noticed how perhaps in the noughties there was a resurgence of the one or two minute silence at work, very well observed at all my 3 employers since then, but it was never observed by any prior to around the.millenium.
 

All uphill

Still rolling along
Location
Somerset
Today is the 109th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme. Please spare a moments thought for those on both sides, who took part in that horrendous slaughter! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-36610675 Yes, I know the town of Accrington and it's surrounding smaller towns were one of many who called up many men who died that day, but it's a name many associate with that terrible day and its following days!

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It's very nice that you refer to both sides, Accy.
 
I don't get a poppy but that does not mean I do not respect the fallen. The poppy has become a commercial thing for the RBL, but IMHO there's other organisations involved in supporting those who have served in the armed forces that I would rather donate to those.

Here at work there's a strong feeling of support for the services with a lot of fundraising for the other charities that support the services, their families and those who served their fair share. Our company even flew local vets to the recent events in Normandy.

So sorry for being the miserable bugger who thinks that the wearing of a poppy isn't showing respect. Respect is something else imo. It's something you have to do to show it. However if you want to just give your money perhaps look to SSAFA, HfH, combat stress, AFF, NFF, Army benevolent fund, naval benevolent fund, RAF benevolent fund, etc., etc, etc. Plus no doubt loads of others that are smaller and local to your area, focusing on services issues in your area.

Or perhaps do something to help. At our work there's support for a charity event where you sleep out to raise money for rough sleeping veterans.

BTW in my family my grandparents generation had representation in the armed forces. Great uncle in the royal marines who as a Non Com was the last in a fighting withdrawal from a med island then spent the rest of the war in PoW camps including a caste one in Germany apparently. But he never talked about it. He starved during those camp days and his body was eating itself too survive. Later on in life he suffered with issues with his intestines and ended up having a foot of it removed because of his wartime suffering. Another was a US military police in Normandy through to Germany.

Another was not in the armed forces as his was a reserved occupation as a train driver. Too young for WWI and reserved occupation in WWII. However he nearly died many times. Many train drivers died as German bombers of they'd missed their target used any bombs left to hit trains. Ok those days when there was a hit. They just pushed the engine off the line, repaired it and carried on. He served on the Southampton to be London line a key strategic route for stuff brought in from America. A target for sure. I no had no idea and as a kid he put me straight. Got as emotional as I've ever seen him. Bear in mind he was born in Victoria's last years so very much stiff upper lip. But I spotted it had a hint of a quiver when he told me how he served. I will never forget that and it is why I get a little bit touchy about how people forget the many ways people served and often with the danger to life. Whether you're fighting fires in London, dodging German bombers in a train engine or on the front line in WWII or Indeed anywhere. People all served, contributed and suffered. Respect is due there too.

Sorry for digression and if what I've posted offends. This respect sentiment IMHO should be widened out a bit to all who are the fallen in combat or contributing in other ways.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
LThe most profoundly affecting place I've ever been was the German cemetery in Normandy. In comparison, the US graves were almost a cheerful, happy place.

Now I think about it, iirc the German cemetery in Crete (somewhere near Maleme) was a very thought provoking place. We've become so accustomed to the white headstones and crosses that are an impressive sight in itself, the German ones are more austere, grey. Perhaps it's because we (i) until that point hadn't really confronted the names, ranks and ages of the poor souls that lay in front of you...nationality doesn't matter when you break it
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Webbo2

Senior Member
Now I think about it, iirc the German cemetery in Crete (somewhere near Maleme) was a very thought provoking place. We've become so accustomed to the white headstones and crosses that are an impressive sight in itself, the German ones are more austere, grey. Perhaps it's because we (i) until that point hadn't really confronted the names, ranks and ages of the poor souls that lay in front of you...nationality doesn't matter when you break it
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Wasn’t Crete the last time the Germans used paratroopers as paratroopers due how many were killed.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Wasn’t Crete the last time the Germans used paratroopers as paratroopers due how many were killed.
I remember watching s documentary, they were interviewing former soldiers that were there. One, almost tearfully, remembered how he had to shoot helpless German paratroopers that were snagged high up in trees. He explained, we couldn't help them get down, too dangerous because of other Germans in the vicinity, and you darent leave them in case they shot you when you moved on.

He said many begged for their lives...
 

DRM

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Location
West Yorks
The (WW1) War Graves in Belgium are something that you simply cannot get your head around, the sheer amount of them, and of graves at each site is staggering, as is the fact that the land is still ravaged over a hundred years on adds to that sense, let alone that Belgian Farmers are still exposing unexploded ordnance, and just leave a pile of it outside the gate for the bomb disposal to take away and deal with.
The fall out from the four years of this are still being felt right now, it's not something that's in the past, it affects the world still, I have been to Belgium and seen a lot of the battlefields, i can't begin to fathom what those young men went through, British or Commonwealth, German, Austrian, Turkish or Italian, they paid a terrible price for the vanities of governments. they all deserve our thoughts & respect
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Wasn’t Crete the last time the Germans used paratroopers as paratroopers due how many were killed.

I read that after Crete, the Germans decided that the losses of the paratroopers were too high and gave up on the tactic. The allies, likely influenced by the Germans' success, but not being privy to the casualty information, decided to train more paratroopers.
 
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