Returned your Census Forms Yet?

[Bayerd]

did yesterday in washable blue ink in most scruffiest writing i could do. sadly on the way to the postbox i dropped the envelope in a puddle.

Don't worry, at the warehouse all returned forms go into a drying room for 24 hours before anything happens with them, so if any of your scruffy writing is left, it'll get recorded

 

[subaqua]

Don't worry, at the warehouse all returned forms go into a drying room for 24 hours before anything happens with them, so if any of your scruffy writing is left, it'll get recorded

good luck to em it was a fairly deep puddle and it took me a few minutes to kneel down to retrieve it. the view through the address window wasn't looking good.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Did mine online too, lots of nosey questions.

I find the fact that YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY LAW actually oddly offensive, I mean, its not a if they wont have all the relevant information already, with everything put on to all the endless databases the last Government (and probably the current Government also) loved so much.

My folks made me do it the other day, meaning that 'they' can keep up their quite frankly obsessive information collecting about me and you with the ultimate aim of probably squeezing even MORE money out of us.

No, p**s off your nosey f***ers.

I sneeze when I look at a bright light such as up into the sky on a sunny day. When I sneeze I get goose bumps on my for arms, even on hot sunny days.

i'm shagging someone i shouldn't be (not right at this moment tho)

Where the **** did THOSE come from??

 

[Fnaar]

If it hadn't been for censuses, Mary and Joseph wouldn't have had to travel to Bethlehem (no post or email in those days, apparently) and Christmas would be a bit different (the star wouldn't have known where to go, and the 3 Kings would have had to find a Travelodge at late notice).

I think it was a wish to confound the census-information-mining authorities that led them to give their child a Mexican name, though...

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Well I've filled in (or out) my census now, well my wife did, but in a defiant step I've asked Charlie Gilmore if he fancies turning over the Co-op with me.

We're gonna stick it to The Man

 

[Adasta]

that and its being administered by an american defence ( note the correct ENGLISH spelling you yankee tards ) company.

the US has an act that allows the Govt and its departments to access data collected by american companies.

I have nothing against the yanks ( spelling excepted) but i do not want any of my data being held by and/or used by them. thats why I am not happy with it this time.

if its for understanding local demographics for planning why do they need to know my health, how well I speak english, my education level . if the government wants to know if i have a passport they can check their own fecking records to see mine expired a few years ago and i am not renewing it. none of that information is needed to plan services in my local area . all they need to know is how many aduls there are in age ranges and how many children there are in age ranges.

tin foil hat made, fitted and currently being worn.

They know everything already anyway!

 

[Arch]

I think I'm actually with Comedypilot and subaqua on this [anything for a bit of anarchy], the threat of £1000 fines pi$es me off, and as for giving the job to an American company [Lockheed Martin] that is an arms firm doubly rattles my cage. This company has ties with the USA Defence department and if requested by the American government under the Patriots Act has to divulge any information they hold.
I think it's just the whole "Big Brother"/ID cards thing. Successive governments haven't exactly got a good record when it comes to safeguarding personal information, oh I see, that's why they gave it to the yanks.

Apparently not, according to someone in the know over on YACF (and someone I think knows their stuff). Something to do with the difference between merely collecting the data, and actually processing it - LM won't hold the data or something.

It's nothing to do with ID cards. The census has been going on, with more and more info collected, since 1841, I think. I don't know that the nationality of the company collecting the data matters much in our multinational global world. If we were all squeamish about foreign corporations doing anything, we'd not get far.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I'd rather a US firm held our data as HMG tend to leave personal information on the train.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

that and its being administered by an american defence ( note the correct ENGLISH spelling you yankee tards ) company.

the US has an act that allows the Govt and its departments to access data collected by american companies.

I have nothing against the yanks ( spelling excepted) but i do not want any of my data being held by and/or used by them. thats why I am not happy with it this time.

It probably all come down to good faith and/or trust in the end, but the subsidiary is Lockheed Martin UK, and as such doesn't count as an American company, and the US Govt, even under the draconian provisions of the Patriot act, does not have access or the right to demand access to the UK data. Of course, the fact that x at Lockheed Martin UK may have strong links to y at Lockheed Martin US would probably make unofficial and, as I understand it, illegal use of the UK data possible. But that would be a form of espionage and that presumably will be going on anyway, regardless of what database the information is in.

 

[User169]

According to ONS, no US-owned company gets to see the data (different to Canada, where LD did get to see the data).

 

[subaqua]

According to ONS, no US-owned company gets to see the data (different to Canada, where LD did get to see the data).

and you beleive anything a government in the UK says.

Iraq must have hidden them WMDs fairly well cos they still havent found the ones that could be launched in 45 minutes

 

[Over The Hill]

My folks made me do it the other day, meaning that 'they' can keep up their quite frankly obsessive information collecting about me and you with the ultimate aim of probably squeezing even MORE money out of us.

No, p**s off your nosey f***ers.

The money they squeeze out of you is spent for you on things for you.

The level of funding your area gets from central gov is based on the census, so if you duck out then you deny them (and you) some funds.

Everything else they spend the money on relates directly to people.

Do you want a school place set aside for your kids? If you have kids then you do, if you do not have kids then you dont want the money wasted on providing a school place. Same with fire service, health, housing need, water and everything else.

Surely you do not want them to wase money and to use what they have most efficiently then you would give them a good idea of the need/demand for each service by giving the information.


Have you ever been to Eastbourne? Full of old people. Hardly any kids. Is the place full of empty classrooms? No! with the right information they gear the service to the need of the local population. The census told Eastbourne it had x number of old people and x number of kids, which probably is miles off the national average. So Eatbourne spends more on health and less on education to fit the need.

If they have no information then they spend needlessly on a guesstimate of need and end up spending your money on a wasted class place instead of grannys new hip.

 

[darkstar]

What data are you actually concerned about them finding out about? Your religion? Your general health? Employment? Date of birth? List the questions you're concerned about. Because when I was filling it out, it struck me how little personal information is required. They aren't asking anything remotely sensitive IMO, certainly nothing a spy company could use. Furthermore, all the results are published online, so what advantage could they possibly gain by collecting the papers?

 

[mangaman]

I find it hard to get worked up against the census. Having done some family history study in the past, I just see it as a resource for my descendents.

I agree - it's an entirely good thing, and something as a nation we should be proud of.

Unfortunately the Coalition seem to think differently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10584385

 

[JtB]

That's not quite how I read it.

It seems the government has no issues with the principle of the census, its just the means by which the data is collected they are questioning.