GrumpyGregry
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And if you had swapped from a 58cm Allez to a 56cm Allez?
Likely a lot more to the change you've experienced than the simple change in size.
Riding a smaller framed bike?
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Likely a lot more to the change you've experienced than the simple change in size.
GrumpyGregry
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Head down arse up, top of bars waaay below the height of the saddle may be great when riding in the pro peleton but it can be a pain in the neck, quite literally, when riding in traffic and makes little sense for day-after-day riding by recreational or touring cyclists who might actually want to look at the scenery!
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JasonHolder
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I've just bought a 50cm allez elite. Now all that is missing is a gadget with cadence and HR to watch thus replacing the boring green countryside I'm never going to see anymore.
uclown2002
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Heard you first time Jason!
JasonHolder
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Lol internet sucks here!
cyberknight
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Don't know because I didn't 
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I did 21.75 miles in 6 and a half hours.
Got loads of pictures to show, found several entrances to woods didn't know where there, learned you can flavor syrup from the seeds of a weed.
Wouldn't want to ride like this everyday, but it was a great day out.
Way back in the 1990s there was a gentleman called Mike Burrows who invented the Lotus type 108:
He then moved to Giant and along came the Giant OCR / TCR compact frame concept
He then moved to Giant and along came the Giant OCR / TCR compact frame concept
JasonHolder
on youtube. learning to be a gent
Take my moneyWay back in the 1990s there was a gentleman called Mike Burrows who invented the Lotus type 108:
He then moved to Giant and along came the Giant OCR / TCR compact frame concept
Smokin Joe
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The first commercially available compact frame was built by Dave Lloyd, sometime back in the eighties I believe. It looked rather weird by the standards of the day and never took off.
There were other oddities as well without takingthis off topic
Does anyone else remember the fashion for smaller front wheels to lower the front and become more aerodynamic?
That went to extremes!
Moser rode a customised "Big Wheel" when he competed his Veterans Hour record
Smokin Joe
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The late eighties and early nineties saw plenty of time trial frames with the top tube sloping to the front. Smaller front wheels were banned by the UCI in yet another move to ensure bicycle development stayed as far back in the dark ages as they could keep it.There were other oddities as well without takingthis off topic
Does anyone else remember the fashion for smaller front wheels to lower the front and become more aerodynamic?
That went to extremes!
Moser rode a customised "Big Wheel" when he competed his Veterans Hour record
I remember the long standing Graeme Obree saga where the UCI changed the bike design rules to ban every bike and position he used!
On one occasion they altered the position between the front of the seat and bottom bracket over the lunch break........ so that the bike was "legal" for the morning's hour session, but illegal for the afternoon one.
IIRC there is a wonderful "up yours" story where Obree went out, bought a child's saddle, lopped off the front with a hacksaw and then presented the bike in a condition that passed the rules.
On one occasion they altered the position between the front of the seat and bottom bracket over the lunch break........ so that the bike was "legal" for the morning's hour session, but illegal for the afternoon one.
IIRC there is a wonderful "up yours" story where Obree went out, bought a child's saddle, lopped off the front with a hacksaw and then presented the bike in a condition that passed the rules.
