RLJ’ers... a popular misconception

[BentMikey]

Except yours isn't worth very much, mookboy.

The only must is when the ped steps out onto the crossing, and it was obvious they intended to wait with all the motor vehicle traffic doing the same. It's not perfect practice, but it's hardly wrong either.

 

[hackbike 6]

It's not always safe to stop just like that is it?

Depending on whether you have a moton behind you and whether he decides whether he is going to stop,that's if he is paying attention.

 

[BentMikey]

That's where you're wrong, and Hackers is right. I'm sure Hackers does far more forward planning than many.

 

[tdr1nka]

Just setting aside the ped on at the zebra crossing, which you & Pink failed to stop for, my take on Pink's riding follows.

RLJ 1: As far as I can see the lights to the left go to red/amber at 00:35 by which time Pink is already close to halfway across the junction. A clear and deliberate RLJ.

RLJ 2: Obviously a clear RLJ but what amazed me was her confidence that there was nothing behind the bus!! Also had that bus stopped without warning she would have hit it square on!

My feelings are that you should stop at red lights(and zebra crossings, end of story.
When I started riding the only vehicles you saw go thru red lights were either the emergency services or hardened crims on the run from the law.

I makes me sad when cyclists wave RLJ-ing about as some sort of extra dividend to make them faster and somehow safer than they'd be if they stopped.

It's an excuse, that's all, the same as you'd get from some SMIDSY motorist with the same idea that it's ok if some of the rules simply don't apply to them.

It is arrogant, selfish and it arms equally stupid motons with yet another excuse to hurl at all cyclists.

 

[BentMikey]

The ped was not at the crossing when the woman went through.

Wrong, the ped was right there. It's obv. in the high quality version.

Besides which, the law doesn't require any of the vehicles, the pink girl, the porsche, or the OP to stop until the ped places a foot on the crossing.

 

[BentMikey]

Don't talk to me about forward thinking, I use it all the time in my job and my record for both cycling and driving speaks for itself.

*gobsmacked*

 

[tdr1nka]

The ped was at, not on the crossing, you can see him look to his right as he stops, which is a good thing he did or Pink might have ridden into him.

 

[hackbike 6]

That's where you're wrong, and Hackers is right. I'm sure Hackers does far more forward planning than many.

Thanks for that mikey.

 

[hackbike 6]

Im not going to bother answering a wind up.

 

[BentMikey]

Reposting that isn't going to change that you are wrong. You said Rog broke the law. He didn't, because the must comes only for the ped actually being on the crossing.

 

[tdr1nka]

Thanks for that mikey.

Praise indeed!

 

[hackbike 6]

Because you know there is nothing to answer, I'm right.

No,but because you are trolling.

 

[goo_mason]

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

• look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
• you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
• allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
• do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
• be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing

Which part of the first sentence and bullet point do you not understand??

I would have thought BM, someone with your overzealous knowledge of cyclecraft and the HC could see this.

Here's one for you Lee, from the Highway Code. Read the bit about what a red light means in this, since you seem keen to quote the Highway Code at others and question what it is about the statements therein that they don't understand.

 

[BentMikey]

Because I'm not, the fact that the ped was not on the crossing does not alter the fact that the OP should have slowed down and stopped regardless of what other traffic is doing, and he had more then enough time.

You are wrong, because Rog was not required to stop by law, and you said he was.

Can't tell from the camera angles, but it looks right in the grey area of whether there was enough time/space to stop or not.

 

[tdr1nka]

I think it has been wholeheartedly agreed that one MUST stop if a ped is ON a crossing.
In this circumstance it would have been more courteous for both rog & Pink to have stopped to let the ped cross, depending on the distance of the traffic behind of course.

What the OT is about Lee is just how foolish and potentially dangerous it is to believe you are entirely above the law when it comes to traffic lights.