RLJ’ers... a popular misconception

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tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
Rather than a fine, how about you buy a Red Light Exemption Certificate?
The funds could then go into an insurance policy to cover yourself and anyone you might inadvertently injure?;)

You Sir are a filthy Braggard. Put your cash away, you can't buy excuses for riding like that.;)
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
User3143 said:
I don't think I am above the law at all in respect of RLJing. If I was ever caught I would admit to it and except my £30 fine:smile:


A Freudian slip, perhaps?
Anyway, a £30 fine is hardly the worst thing that could happen as a result of RLJing. Would you accept the blame for any accident if you were the only one breaking the law?
 

LLB

Guest
Christ that 2nd RLJ was close B) She must absolutely have a death wish as she had no idea what was behind the bus, could have been a car, another cyclist or another bus.

Just strikes me as total arrogance to others on the road. Looking good in a pink outfit is not mitigation for stupidity. She is playing with fire and will get burnt :biggrin:
 

dondare

Über Member
Location
London
LLB said:
Christ that 2nd RLJ was close B) She must absolutely have a death wish as she had no idea what was behind the bus, could have been a car, another cyclist or another bus.

Just strikes me as total arrogance to others on the road. Looking good in a pink outfit is not mitigation for stupidity. She is playing with fire and will get burnt :biggrin:

Perhaps partial mitigation. Should be, anyway.
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
The real problem with these discussions is that everyone is working on the basis of how 'potentially' dangerous peoples actions are, thus you'll get those who say how Pink rode was allowable because, as we can see, she gets thru these junctions 'safely'.B)

Just sometimes tho, it is seriously worth remembering that when assessing risk on the roads you should, by rights, be including others that might be effected by your actions.

An insular 'I'm all right Jack' or 'I'm always in control' attitude in any road user is pompous, deluded and expects other road users to be alert and aware of your riding which in the case of RLJ-ing is, IMO, nurturing a deathwish and is bad practice.

If it is alright for a cyclist to RLJ then by rights it should be fine for everyone else to do the same if they decide it is safe to do so?
 

nickb

Guru
Location
Cardiff
I can't help feeling that the sad gits riding around with video cameras strapped to themeselves would be gutted if everyone on the road behaved impeccably as they'd be unable to post their holier-than-thou footage up here for all to tut-tut at.

And when did 'red-light-jump' become a verb? 'RLJing' - WTF is all that about?
 

LLB

Guest
nickb said:
I can't help feeling that the sad gits riding around with video cameras strapped to themeselves would be gutted if everyone on the road behaved impeccably as they'd be unable to post their holier-than-thou footage up here for all to tut-tut at.

And when did 'red-light-jump' become a verb? 'RLJing' - WTF is all that about?

To be fair to them, the cam is to record the very often very near misses not the indiscretions of other where it doesn't affect the author directly.

It is easy to adopt a siege mentality when being threatened on a regular basis thus they feel the need to tool up with a cam.
 

ferret fur

Well-Known Member
Location
Roseburn
I don't think the OP is being holier than thou. The point about the 2nd RLJ is just how scarily dangerous it is. Even if the light had been green & it had been legal for her to cycle straight on the chances of something following the bus round are pretty high. With the light at red and any following vehicle assuming that nothing should be oncoming it really does qualify for a an attempted Darwin. Everyone on this forum ought to be able to recognise this.

Part of the reason why the troll is such a berk is that this should be a road safety video: It is about someone riding in a way which genuinely jeopardises their own safety. His pathetic attempts to draw attention to the zebra shows that he really just doesn't get it. I wish people would just stop feeding him.
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
nickb said:
I can't help feeling that the sad gits riding around with video cameras strapped to themeselves would be gutted if everyone on the road behaved impeccably as they'd be unable to post their holier-than-thou footage up here for all to tut-tut at.

And when did 'red-light-jump' become a verb? 'RLJing' - WTF is all that about?

Red Light Jump - ing
Red Light Jump - er

Makes abbreviated sense to even the most hardened pedant.B):rolleyes:

FWIW Most that ride with cams are doing so to record instances of dangerous driving by motorised vehicles.
IMO This thread was intended to highlight the fact that jumping red lights
is not restricted to wannbe couriers on fixies.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
nickb said:
I can't help feeling that the sad gits riding around with video cameras strapped to themeselves would be gutted if everyone on the road behaved impeccably as they'd be unable to post their holier-than-thou footage up here for all to tut-tut at.
I don't ride with a cam, but I'd be over the moon if folk stuck to the law and rode/drove with consideration for others. Having been hit twice this year by impatient drivers (couldn't wait to overtake until it was safe, and couldn't wait to join a roundabout until it was safe, respectively) and had a very close call with an RLJ'ing cyclist recently (he was bloody lucky I was watching his side of the junction, because he wasn't watching mine), I find it hard to describe critique of the selfish twats occupying Britain's roads as "holier than thou".

YMMV, of course.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Lee, MUST in the highway code means that the item is law. Should means only advice, not law. You said Rog broke the law. You are this: WRONG.

You should ride on cyclepaths according to the highway code. Are you breaking the law? Same goes for Rog and the crossing. Looks like you've learnt something else new today.
 

Twiggy

New Member
Location
Coventry
the reluctant cyclist said:
Is it wrong that I want to know where she got her groovy pink jacket so I can get one? :blush:

*backs out of the room quietly...*

Looks simmilar to mine, which I got from aldi.

Got a whole set of cycling gear from aldi for around £50 total, including shoes. Given I was quoted around £50 just for shoes before, I think it was a pretty good deal.
 
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